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using strategy sheets in a casino

#1

By definition, a strategy sheet gives you the best way (or almost best way) to a play a particular game. When a casino puts in 8/5 bonus poker, they are expecting to make more than? .83% on the game. 2% below optimum is expected payback I have heard quoted. So the casino expects to make 2.83% on the game.

If you play without a strategy sheet, the casino has no idea if you play well or not. If you do play with a strategy sheet, I'm sure the casino figures you for playing above that 2.83% expected house take and it certainly seems like you would be a 'less desirable' customer.

In blackjack, if I sit down at a $10 table and proceed to bet $10, $10, $75, $75, $10, $10 I will probably draw the attention of the pitboss, whether I am a counter, a basic strategy player or just a gambler. Drawing attention in casinos mostly works against the player.

In summary, I don't see how using a strategy card at a casino can possibly make you a more desired customer but I can think of several ways where it makes you a less desired customer.

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#2

greeklandjohnny@aol.com wrote:

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By definition, a strategy sheet gives you the best way (or almost best way) to a play a particular game. When a casino puts in 8/5 bonus poker, they are expecting to make more than? .83% on the game. 2% below optimum is expected payback I have heard quoted. So the casino expects to make 2.83% on the game.

If you play without a strategy sheet, the casino has no idea if you play well or not. If you do play with a strategy sheet, I'm sure the casino figures you for playing above that 2.83% expected house take and it certainly seems like you would be a 'less desirable' customer.

In blackjack, if I sit down at a $10 table and proceed to bet $10, $10, $75, $75, $10, $10 I will probably draw the attention of the pitboss, whether I am a counter, a basic strategy player or just a gambler. Drawing attention in casinos mostly works against the player.

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That doesn't seem to hold for games like craps and roulette. If you're playing honestly and wagering above the minimums for a given length of time, the chances are the pit may well give you attention, which in that case is to be desired.

#3

I have seen Video Poker Strategy Cards in casino gift shops as well. Thus if they say you can't use a certain strategy card seems as odd as telling you that you can't drink a Coke you bought elsewhere if this establishment serves Pepsi. (FWIW I like Coke better than Pepsi but vice versa is a good example, too!)

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--- On Fri, 1/30/09, greeklandjohnny@aol.com <greeklandjohnny@aol.com> wrote:
From: greeklandjohnny@aol.com <greeklandjohnny@aol.com>
Subject: [vpFREE] using strategy sheets in a casino
To: vpfree@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, January 30, 2009, 6:56 AM

By definition, a strategy sheet gives you the best way (or almost best way) to a play a particular game. When a casino puts in 8/5 bonus poker, they are expecting to make more than? .83% on the game. 2% below optimum is expected payback I have heard quoted. So the casino expects to make 2.83% on the game.

If you play without a strategy sheet, the casino has no idea if you play well or not. If you do play with a strategy sheet, I'm sure the casino figures you for playing above that 2.83% expected house take and it certainly seems like you would be a 'less desirable' customer.

In blackjack, if I sit down at a $10 table and proceed to bet $10, $10, $75, $75, $10, $10 I will probably draw the attention of the pitboss, whether I am a counter, a basic strategy player or just a gambler. Drawing attention in casinos mostly works against the player.

In summary, I don't see how using a strategy card at a casino can possibly make you a more desired customer but I can think of several ways where it makes you a less desired customer.

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