vpFREE2 Forums

Ultimate X Bankroll/Loss

#1

From what I read, Ultimate X has a very tricky play strategy...even for
JoB. Trying to pull in those multipliers (especially the full house 12x'er)
alters the play quite a bit. A lot of practice needed to get it down
correctly.
    You may want to try Super Times Pay which has the same play strategy as
normal JoB. I read that even with the cost of 6 units per line the random
multiplier makes the game > 99.54%.
     Or, you may want to try Multi Strike. 9/6 JoB Multi Strike has a
return of 99.79%. It can be found at the Gold Coast. Like Ultimate X, this
game also has a different strategy from normal JoB so it has a learning
curve.
     So many games out there!!!

Stu

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

#2

another way to obtain data is to play the game on videopoker.com. You can play as many 1000-hand sessions as you like, recording the results each time, and it will give you a pattern of ending results that will be useful in predicting how well you do in the casino. It's possible you'll need to be a Gold Member to play Utimate X there, but $79.95 a year should not be a showstopper for someone who wants who always has a $500 daily bankroll.

Bob

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

#3

lol love you bob but that is horrendous advice

···

On Saturday, March 7, 2015 11:41 AM, "Bob Dancer bobdancervp@hotmail.com [vpFREE]" <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

     another way to obtain data is to play the game on videopoker.com. You can play as many 1000-hand sessions as you like, recording the results each time, and it will give you a pattern of ending results that will be useful in predicting how well you do in the casino. It's possible you'll need to be a Gold Member to play Utimate X there, but $79.95 a year should not be a showstopper for someone who wants who always has a $500 daily bankroll.

Bob

#4

lol love you bob but that is horrendous advice

It's nice to be loved. why do you think the advice is so bad?

Bob

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

#5

My guess is BP is referring to the fact that the current video poker simulators have very little in common with the actual game of video poker in a casino. A noob could crush Video Poker for Winners and yet get absolutely corn holed and lose the family farm in an actual casino, I'm sure many have. What's the solution? If you must enter a casino, start slow, wager small bets, pennies if possible, and take full advantage of the many freebies that have no play requirements (free tournaments, free drawings, free gifts, free food, free rooms, credit for sitting at a machine or table while not actually wagering, and so on) or very small play requirements to build up your bankroll. Keep careful records, don't just assume you will get the computer optimal EV, because you probably will not. Las Vegas was built on Vegas Blackjack, which was an overlay, for a computer. Figure out (using statistics) what your true EV is looking like at small stakes, before even considering moving up to bigger stakes. Start out with a beginning strategy, like Jacks or Better Quads or Less, or min-cost-royal before moving up to something like Kelly strategy or maxEV which count on accumulating more hands to express their advantage.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

#6

Uh, because the volatility (or at least a close
approximation) can be computed directly without resorting to
the least efficient Monte Carlo sim in history, involving
dozens of hours of play-money(!) video poker for the low,
low price of $79.95 (from which you'll no doubt see your
cut)

···

_________________________________

"nightoftheiguana2000 wrote:

My guess is BP is referring to the fact that the current
video poker simulators have very little in common with the
actual game of video poker in a casino ...

#7

BP wrote: Uh, because the volatility (or at least a close

approximation) can be computed directly without resorting to

the least efficient Monte Carlo sim in history, involving

dozens of hours of play-money(!) video poker for the low,

low price of $79.95 (from which you'll no doubt see your

cut)

If the OP could compute the volatility directly he wouldn't have posted the information.

videopoker.com does sponsor my radio show, but I get no percentage from anything on the website.

Bob

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]