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Ultimate X Bankroll/Loss

I have been playing 8/6 JOB Ult-X .25 Triple Play.

My bankroll has been $500 - $1000 and I go broke EVERY TIME.

I know I am over my head, but my question is just how much?

What is a realistic range of loss per hour for this game?

What would be a recommended bankroll?

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I have been playing 8/6 JOB Ult-X .25 Triple Play. My bankroll has been $500 - $1000 and I go broke EVERY TIME.

Isn't it a negative game? 99.2978%. Isn't it more a question of how many hands you (could) play before going broke, based on a given bankroll?

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You don't mention what strategy you are using. The Wizard of Odds site give a decent strategy for the Ten Play version of this game. Using it on Triple Play costs you a bit. Using regular JoB strategy costs you quite a bit more. There are LOTS of strategy deviations from regular JoB to JoB Ultimate X. Not making the correct strategic plays means your bankroll will go that much faster.

Bob

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Assuming that one was going to sit at this game and wanted to play a six hour session (with Mike Shackleford's) strategy. What would you suggest for a minimum bankroll.

Thanks

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maclarenv12 wrote: "Assuming that one was going to sit at this game and wanted to play a six hour session (with Mike Shackleford's) strategy. What would you suggest for a minimum bankroll."

Probably the best way with these hard to analyze games including regular slots, assuming you're going to play anyway, is to use the experimental method. Play for half an hour at the minimum bet and record your results, and repeat and average out your results. If the results vary widely, it will take many sessions to get a reasonable average.

For example, at Jacks or better, you should ignore any royals or straight flushes, since those are long shots. Instead focus on the quads or better, or payoffs of 25 for 1 or less for a slot. We already know the quad cycle is about 423 on a computer, so you'd need a sample size about 5 x 423 = 2115 to get some statistical significance. So, start taking real data in a casino, this is the best way, assuming you're going to play anyway, to figure out your true EV and variance in the actual casino environment on actual casino machines.

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