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#1

Just another perspective, but I look at the posts as venting in frustration.
And I can emphasize. My local Midwest casinos still have good pay tables
and they comp the things I care about. My Las Vegas strip casinos have made
their pay tables less entertaining AND their comp programs less generous.

If I've got a travel at least 4 hours each way to get less, it's a lot less
enjoyable from the onset. And for a three day trip without some part of the
"magic" still in tact, it becomes pointless to go. Sure, some trips you run
cold. And all of sudden you realize that the nice dinner you had comp'd was
$2000/person instead of its actual cost. But when you add the cost of a
regular vacation to your typical VP session bankroll for Vegas due to the
ability to play balls-to-the-wall for 15 hours at a time, the elasticity
curve of going versus staying becomes a disappointment. And ultimately, I'm
going to stay home or go someplace, gasp, non-gambling oriented. Or spend a
much smaller portion of my bankroll in a three hour day trip at my local
casino - which do have better odds and where the travel overhead isn't a
factor in my experience.

I empathize 100% -- now that there are decent games in the Midwest, I have reduced my frequency of Vegas trips from 4-5 per year (when I was working, too, so harder to take those trips), to once a year or less (and I'm now retired, so time off from work is not a factor). I'd rather spend a 2 or 3 day weekend at one of the midwest casinos for a lot less money and a lot better gaming experience - and I now go 10-15 times a year. I don't miss the high-end decor and restaurants very much, all things considered, which is much of what the Vegas casinos offer that the Midwest does not (and that difference is marginal in some cases, and in some cases is in favor of the midwest, depending on which casinos here and there are being compared). I used to enjoy the name entertainers in Vegas long ago, when the shows were another big attraction out there, but now the shows are mostly review-style, without the big names (some exceptions, of course), so not much there either.

The midwest is winning right now, for my business, and for why I go. For others, the "Vegas experience" can't be matched, and if you want big themed casinos, Vegas is still the place; I can do without.

--BG

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#2

Another Poster wrote:

.......My local Midwest casinos still have good pay tables and they comp the things I care about. My Las Vegas strip casinos have made
their pay tables less entertaining AND their comp programs less generous..........

....Or (I will) spend a much smaller portion of my bankroll in a three hour day trip at my local casino - which do have better odds.......

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Barry Glazer" <b.glazer@...> wrote:

.......I'd rather spend a 2 or 3 day weekend at one of the midwest casinos for a lot less money and a lot better gaming experience - and I now go 10-15 times a year.

OK, Guys. I also live in the Mid-West and continue to travel 3-4
hours to LV and Reno, about 8 times every year. I rarely play in
IL, where I live, though I could drive to a casino in about 45 minutes.

I wish I knew where you are finding these great plays. The best
that I've seen in this area is an occasional dollar 9/6 JOB or
8/5 BP. At the Casino Queen, in E. St Louis, IL, there is also a
bank of 25c 9/7 DB games, and a bank of dollar 10/7 DB with the SF
and non-nonus quads shorted to 239 coins. And that's the BEST that
I've found! I have not found a single playable wild game in IL. No
NSUD or even 99% Joker games.

Where are the Optimum banks, containing FPDW, FPJW, 10/6 DDB and
10/7 DB, which can STILL be found in Nevada? While playing these
good games, you do accrue points and comps much more slowly, and
your theo may be zilch, but, at least, the games are still
available in LV, Reno, Laughlin and perhaps other NV venues.

BTW, I still am fully comped (room and food)in all my favorite
casinos, while playing their best games plus some slightly under
100% games.

I welcome your imput, or correction, if that is appropriate.

Respectfully,

~Babe~

#3

You're right about Illinois, but just across the border in Gary, IN at the Majestic Star there are several NSUD, DWB and DWDB options. Check out VPFree2.

And that's the BEST that

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I've found! I have not found a single playable wild game in IL. No
NSUD or even 99% Joker games.

Where are the Optimum banks, containing FPDW, FPJW, 10/6 DDB and
10/7 DB, which can STILL be found in Nevada? While playing these
good games, you do accrue points and comps much more slowly, and
your theo may be zilch, but, at least, the games are still
available in LV, Reno, Laughlin and perhaps other NV venues.

BTW, I still am fully comped (room and food)in all my favorite
casinos, while playing their best games plus some slightly under
100% games.

I welcome your imput, or correction, if that is appropriate.

Respectfully,

~Babe~

#4

Thanks for the heads-up, Jay. I have not been to any casino in
Indiana, though the HET Horseshoe has sent me several nice
offers. I live in one the farthest North suburbs of Chicago, and
have not felt a burning desire to drive a couple of hours South
to Gary,IN for a VP session.

Perhaps, if I finally grow weary of the hassle of airport security
and the tiresome flights Westward, I may venture into Gary and see
what their local casinos have to offer.

I appreciate the information.

~Babe~

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "jaywilly240" <wha724@...> wrote:

You're right about Illinois, but just across the border in Gary, IN
at the Majestic Star there are several NSUD, DWB and DWDB options. Check out VPFree2.