--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "jim_mason7" <7711-jimmason@...> wrote>
Guys-it is all very amusing- but very hard to believe.
A little proof, not anecdotes would be more convincing.
Oh, so you want the truth?, er, proof? I'll just have to call my good buddy, aaahhh what's his name? Anyways's he'll definitely deliver the undeniable truth to you. But he won't give you any proof.
WIth all due respect, sir....Do you really think I give a rat's ass what you believe?
Is he the fat / sloppy poker player , who would wear the same clothes for over 1 week without bathing ? As a result he was ask to leave many poker rooms cause he smelt like shit ? If so, I may have met him.
thanks in advance...Tom
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mickey" <mickeycrimm@yahoo.com>
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 4:46 PM
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Twas The Night Before New Years
The real funny stuff about commandeering or getting people off their machines belongs to the real down and out crack head type advantage slot hustlers. Sklansky called them bottom feeders. We're talking advantage slots like Wild Cherry Pie, Fishin' For Cash, Double Diamond Mine, Triple Diamond Mine, Diamond Thief, Money Factory, Times Pay, Slot Bingo, Mystery Bonus. All part of the IGT Vision Series.
Take a tourist playing a Wild Cherry Pie and gets it down to just a few cherries to go before the machine coughs up the bonus. One hustler would sit down on one side of the tourist. Another hustler on the other side. They both put bills in their machines but they hardly play. They both got lit cigarettes in their mouths and puffing smoke to beat hell, blowing it all over the tourist. And talking loudly to each other right through the tourist until the tourist gets pissed and leaves....also leaving them a big fat play.
I was talking with my friend Al this evening. He told me this Tuna story. It was one of those times the Pepp in Reno put the dollar FPDW back in. Al was banging away and here comes Tuna and one of his employee's. Tuna knew not to dominate in the Pepp. The suits wouldn't tolerate it.
So Tuna and his employee are banging away and Al can hear everything that is being said. Here comes the cocktail waitress. They order a couple of drinks. When the drinks got delivered Tuns says to him emplyee "You got a quarter? I don't have any change on me." The guy hands Tuna a quarter and Tuna throws it up on the waitress's trey.
Some time later the cocktail waitress comes buy again asking if anyone wants drinks but she ignores Tuna and his employee. As she is walking away Tuna yells "Hey, we need the same setup we had last time."
When she delivered the drinks Tuna said "I'll catch you next time. I don't have any change."
About an hour later Tuna's employee hits a royal. The floorperson counted the hundreds one at a time as she layed them in his hand. But the last $100 was in twenties. The employee grabbed a twenty and went to hand it to the floor person who had her hand stuck out to receive the money. Faster than greased lighting Tuna grabbed the twenty, then reached in his pocket, pulled out a five dollar bill and hand it to her.
You must be talking about Eskimo Clark
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "tomflush" <tomflush@...> wrote:
Is he the fat / sloppy poker player , who would wear the same clothes for
over 1 week without bathing ? As a result he was ask to leave many poker
rooms cause he smelt like shit ? If so, I may have met him.
thanks in advance...Tom
Come to think of it, Tuna wasn't real big on hygiene either. He ouwld wear the same clothes for a week, food stains and all. I don't know if he ever got pitched for it.
We've been telling the bad side of Tuna here. But im fairness heres another Tuna story. He fell hard for a crackhead Mississippi gamblin' girl back in the nineties. They had a couple of kids. They wound up divorced but Tuna paid for her rehabilitation. He quit the poker tournament circuit to raise the two kids. He was a dedicated father.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Mickey" <mickeycrimm@...> wrote:
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "tomflush" <tomflush@> wrote:
>
> Is he the fat / sloppy poker player , who would wear the same >clothes for over 1 week without bathing ? As a result he was ask to leave many poker rooms cause he smelt like shit ? If so, I may have met him.
> thanks in advance...Tom
>
>
lol That was my first thought when I read that. It's pretty bad when you think about someone's name and think about bad odor at the same time, even on the freaking internet. Eskimo Clark is famous for that. I've seen him at Commerce before. I say I saw him, not smelled him. I was on the rail, I guess it didn't travel that far.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Mickey" <mickeycrimm@...> wrote:
You must be talking about Eskimo Clark
Even in the low limits I play ( $5/$10 - $10/$20 limit and $1/$2 no limit) fat/sloppy poker player is a pretty big group. A hundred people could fit that description.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Mickey" <mickeycrimm@...> wrote:
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "tomflush" <tomflush@> wrote:
>
> Is he the fat / sloppy poker player , who would wear the same clothes for over 1 week without bathing ? As a result he was ask to leave many poker rooms cause he smelt like shit ? If so, I may have met him.
> thanks in advance...Tom
>
>
You must be talking about Eskimo Clark
Thank you Mikey for that Tuna tidbit. I have heard 10 more just like it from some of his employees that played up at the lake with me.
Did you ever know Tom D & Mike B? And if so do you know what happened to them? They were my favorite Tahoe competitors.
I also had an addition to my earlier defense of the veracity of Micky's posts. A person wanted proof of his stories, and my first thought was, "skepticism", well that's always a good thing. On further thought, I would like to point out something that obviously escaped our skeptic's mind.
Along with being very entertaining, 90% of Mickey's posts include a self deprecating element, that most of us would be ashamed to admit (especially in a public forum); and that's assuming we were intelligent enough, introspective enough, and honest enough (with ourselves) to be aware of them in the first place. Pouring your heart out on your sleeve is not the act of a self ingratiating braggart, who's words need to be questioned.
One of the only pet peeves I have, is to be called a lier, and even though questioning a "story" is not as strong as that, it can still be hurtful...especially to someone who is trying to be extra honest. I can only imagine Micky feels similarly.
I would hate to see vpFREE lose its most entertaining poster, because of a few doubters. Well, that's all I had on that.
Happy New Year.
Oh P.S. At AZ's Canteen during a VP tournament many years ago, a patron sitting next to me said, "what do you do?" I replied, "I'm a professional gambler". His reaction was as bizarre as it was swift. While shouting, "you *&$*^& lier, there's no way to beat the casinos", he punched me in the face. I was uninjured and he was ejected from the bar, but it was a long time before I answered honestly to that particular question again. See where honesty gets you.
Rudeness has no place on this or any other forum. I will accept your apology in advance. Otherwise it is time for the moderator to cut you off.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Mickey" <mickeycrimm@...> wrote:
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "jim_mason7" <7711-jimmason@> wrote>
>
>
> Guys-it is all very amusing- but very hard to believe.
> A little proof, not anecdotes would be more convincing.
>
>
Oh, so you want the truth?, er, proof? I'll just have to call my good buddy, aaahhh what's his name? Anyways's he'll definitely deliver the undeniable truth to you. But he won't give you any proof.WIth all due respect, sir....Do you really think I give a rat's ass what you believe?
What Mickey said wasn't even close to rude or even close to what he should have (IMHO) said. Where the hell have you been living if you consider that rude? Don't hold your breath waiting for an apology... you don't deserve one.
And don't bother to respond to me... I've said all I'm going to say and the list doesn't deserve to read us pissing at each other.
On 1/1/2011 7:32 PM, jim_mason7 wrote:
Rudeness has no place on this or any other forum. I will accept your apology in advance. Otherwise it is time for the moderator to cut you off.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Mickey"<mickeycrimm@...> wrote:
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "jim_mason7"<7711-jimmason@> wrote>
Guys-it is all very amusing- but very hard to believe.
A little proof, not anecdotes would be more convincing.Oh, so you want the truth?, er, proof? I'll just have to call my good buddy, aaahhh what's his name? Anyways's he'll definitely deliver the undeniable truth to you. But he won't give you any proof.
WIth all due respect, sir....Do you really think I give a rat's ass what you believe?
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Hi all,
I think I remember reading here once that if a casino has a progressive jackpot going that hasn't been hit, and they want to discontinue those machines in their inventory, that they have to reassign the jackpot money somewhere else? Or do they have to keep those machines active until someone hits it?
Does anyone know what the truth of it is? I'm curious about this.
Thanks,
Valerie
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You are correct. Rarely a $1 progressive gets put on a $0.25 bank for example, saw it once at the Stardust.
--- On Sat, 1/1/11, Valerie Pollard <vpollard@socal.rr.com> wrote:
From: Valerie Pollard <vpollard@socal.rr.com>
Subject: [vpFREE] Progressive Question
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, January 1, 2011, 10:40 PM
Hi all,
I think I remember reading here once that if a casino has a progressive jackpot going that hasn't been hit, and they want to discontinue those machines in their inventory, that they have to reassign the jackpot money somewhere else? Or do they have to keep those machines active until someone hits it?
Does anyone know what the truth of it is? I'm curious about this.
Thanks,
Valerie
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You call them liars and you want an apology. That is humorous.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "jim_mason7" <7711-jimmason@...> wrote:
Rudeness has no place on this or any other forum. I will accept your apology in advance. Otherwise it is time for the moderator to cut you off.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Mickey" <mickeycrimm@> wrote:
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> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "jim_mason7" <7711-jimmason@> wrote>
> >
> >
> > Guys-it is all very amusing- but very hard to believe.
> > A little proof, not anecdotes would be more convincing.
> >
> >
> Oh, so you want the truth?, er, proof? I'll just have to call my good buddy, aaahhh what's his name? Anyways's he'll definitely deliver the undeniable truth to you. But he won't give you any proof.
>
> WIth all due respect, sir....Do you really think I give a rat's ass what you believe?
>
I know that is true in Indiana as when they are about to remove a
progressive, they post that info on the machines. Bob Dancer benefitted from
one of those situations when a $100,000 progressive at my home casino was
changed to a different slot with a $50,000 progressive. The extra $50,000
was relocated to a $5 VP game which he knocked down a couple of years ago.
From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpF…@…com] On Behalf Of
Valerie Pollard
Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2011 10:41 PM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vpFREE] Progressive Question
Hi all,
I think I remember reading here once that if a casino has a progressive
jackpot going that hasn't been hit, and they want to discontinue those
machines in their inventory, that they have to reassign the jackpot money
somewhere else? Or do they have to keep those machines active until someone
hits it?
Does anyone know what the truth of it is? I'm curious about this.
Thanks,
Valerie
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HEY, where's the Coach been?
I like reading his trip reports.
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From: GilbertA <gilrus47@yahoo.com>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, January 2, 2011 6:09:20 AM
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Twas The Night Before New Years
You call them liars and you want an apology. That is humorous.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "jim_mason7" <7711-jimmason@...> wrote:
Rudeness has no place on this or any other forum. I will accept your apology in
advance. Otherwise it is time for the moderator to cut you off.--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Mickey" <mickeycrimm@> wrote:
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "jim_mason7" <7711-jimmason@> wrote>
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> >
> > Guys-it is all very amusing- but very hard to believe.
> > A little proof, not anecdotes would be more convincing.
> >
> >
> Oh, so you want the truth?, er, proof? I'll just have to call my good buddy,
aaahhh what's his name? Anyways's he'll definitely deliver the undeniable truth
to you. But he won't give you any proof.>
> WIth all due respect, sir....Do you really think I give a rat's ass what you
believe?
>
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He is on a cruise on the NCL Epic. I hope he and his wife have better luck than I had a few weeks ago on board. Mike
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Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: Twas The Night Before New Years
HEY, where's the Coach been?
I like reading his trip reports.
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From: GilbertA <gilrus47@yahoo.com>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, January 2, 2011 6:09:20 AM
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Twas The Night Before New Years
You call them liars and you want an apology. That is humorous.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "jim_mason7" <7711-jimmason@...> wrote:
Rudeness has no place on this or any other forum. I will accept your apology in
advance. Otherwise it is time for the moderator to cut you off.--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Mickey" <mickeycrimm@> wrote:
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "jim_mason7" <7711-jimmason@> wrote>
> >
> >
> > Guys-it is all very amusing- but very hard to believe.
> > A little proof, not anecdotes would be more convincing.
> >
> >
> Oh, so you want the truth?, er, proof? I'll just have to call my good buddy,
aaahhh what's his name? Anyways's he'll definitely deliver the undeniable truth
to you. But he won't give you any proof.>
> WIth all due respect, sir....Do you really think I give a rat's ass what you
believe?
>
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "GilbertA" <gilrus47@...> wrote: You call them liars and you want an apology. That is humorous.
FK: Wrote
Yes I laughed quite a lot, which is what I thought we were supposed to be doing in this thread. As its progenitor, I would simply like to remind everyone it began as a Holiday Themed Poem, and I encouraged people to write their own verses.
To get things back on track I have now written a new verse, based on the email exchanges in this thread. Please keep all replies in the poetic verse, iambic pentameter, haiku, or at least include, "Onomatopoeia". I'm kidding of course, do as you please...But don't we want to start the new year positive?
The Crimster told stories both valued and wanted,
as the clock struck twelve, when the new year had started.
Some thought his offerings of dubious veracity,
Perhaps showing their distinct lack of any perspicacity.
~FK
~Warning: The surgeon general has determined that posting in this thread may result in being immortalized in poems and song, possibly to be sung at Renaissance Festivals & Star Trek conventions by smelly people with very large weapons.
This is true in Vegas as well. Seen it done many times. The largest carry over Ive seen was on wheel of fortune when IGT moved a jackpot over to the .25 denom and it was over 4 million. GVR spread a discontinued jackpot progressive over most of their .25 progressive poker banks ,making them all over two or three thousand at one time.
Hi all,
I think I remember reading here once that if a casino has a progressive
jackpot going that hasn't been hit, and they want to discontinue those
machines in their inventory, that they have to reassign the jackpot money
somewhere else? Or do they have to keep those machines active until someone
hits it?Does anyone know what the truth of it is? I'm curious about this.
Thanks,
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I feel so unneeded. A post entitled "Progressive Question" has come and gone and my input wasn't needed. "gofastnismo" got it perfectly right, and he even had more recent and larger examples than I could have provided.
My stories about the Nob Hill and a casino in Hawthorn NV, would pale in comparison.
Oh woe is me.
Perhaps my teachers didn't mean what I thought when they called me, "special".
~FK
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "gofastnismo" <gofastnismo@...> wrote:
This is true in Vegas as well. Seen it done many times. The largest carry over Ive seen was on wheel of fortune when IGT moved a jackpot over to the .25 denom and it was over 4 million. GVR spread a discontinued jackpot progressive over most of their .25 progressive poker banks ,making them all over two or three thousand at one time.
> Hi all,
>
> I think I remember reading here once that if a casino has a progressive
> jackpot going that hasn't been hit, and they want to discontinue those
> machines in their inventory, that they have to reassign the jackpot money
> somewhere else? Or do they have to keep those machines active until someone
> hits it?
>
> Does anyone know what the truth of it is? I'm curious about this.
>
> Thanks,
> Valerie
>
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As someone mentioned, cigarette smoke and loud conversation can often do the trick without actually FORCING someone off the machine. Getting a ploppie to move on to another machine because he no longer is comfortable at his current machine, will usually work better than overtly trying to force him to leave the machine.
I don't do this often, but, when I do, I find that smoke from a cheap cigar will usually do the trick within a couple of minutes.
Getting a pro or semi-pro to leave a play is a whole other story,as he's going to be more determined to stay. In those situations, I tend to either walk away, try to wait him out, and/or try to create a short term partnership with him.
I love the idea of hiring a hottie to whisper sweet nothings in the ear of the guy playing the machine.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mike" <melbedewy1226@...> wrote:
How could he "commandeer" machines from people already sitting there? Anybody who tried to force me off a machine would just make me more determined to park my ass there.