Well, they were so crowded how can you blame them? 
In a message dated 12/2/2005 7:02:44 PM Pacific Standard Time,
vpfae6128305@Cox.net writes:
According to the the LV locals grapevine the 10/7 DB
bartops at Tuscany have been downgraded.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
BTW, I talked with one of the bartenders while the machines were down and
told him if they really were downgrading the paytables he would lose most of
his customers. He told me he was fine with that with few exceptions. It was
obvious from his response that to him it wasn't worth the hassle of dealing
with all the pros with the few tips he got. Since the card of the day was
implemented to get money into the bartenders pockets (why else would a
casino care if people gambled in that bar or somewhere else in the casino?)
you can blame all the greedy pros who were too cheap even to order a water
and tip a buck or throw him a few bucks when they hit the COD for this
plays' demise.
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Well, they were so crowded how can you blame them?
In a message dated 12/2/2005 7:02:44 PM Pacific Standard Time,
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According to the the LV locals grapevine the 10/7 DB
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<<Since the card of the day was implemented to get money into the bartenders
pockets (why else would a casino care if people gambled in that bar or
somewhere else in the casino?) you can blame all the greedy pros who were
too cheap even to order a water and tip a buck or throw him a few bucks when
they hit the COD for this plays' demise.>>
Slot directors do not make decisions about paytables based on how much
bartenders are getting tipped.
Cogno
Slot directors do not implement COD promotions.
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Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 10:50 PM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [vpFREE] Tuscany 10/7 DB bartops downgraded
<<Since the card of the day was implemented to get money into the bartenders
pockets (why else would a casino care if people gambled in that bar or
somewhere else in the casino?) you can blame all the greedy pros who were
too cheap even to order a water and tip a buck or throw him a few bucks when
they hit the COD for this plays' demise.>>
Slot directors do not make decisions about paytables based on how much
bartenders are getting tipped.
Cogno
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Cogno Scienti" <cognoscienti@g...>
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Slot directors do not make decisions about paytables based on how
much
bartenders are getting tipped.
Cogno
This is a fact? I never knew this. Thanks.
.....bl
Another fine factoid for my file! Again, thanks!
I should soon have a "Statement of Work" document for slot directors.
.....bl
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Randy C" <randyc@U...> wrote:
Slot directors do not implement COD promotions.
Why would management be concerned with how much bartenders get tipped?
Chandler
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Randy C
Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 12:27 AM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [vpFREE] Tuscany 10/7 DB bartops downgraded
BTW, I talked with one of the bartenders while the machines were down and
told him if they really were downgrading the paytables he would lose most of
his customers. He told me he was fine with that with few exceptions. It was
obvious from his response that to him it wasn't worth the hassle of dealing
with all the pros with the few tips he got. Since the card of the day was
implemented to get money into the bartenders pockets (why else would a
casino care if people gambled in that bar or somewhere else in the casino?)
you can blame all the greedy pros who were too cheap even to order a water
and tip a buck or throw him a few bucks when they hit the COD for this
plays' demise.
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Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 8:57 PM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Tuscany 10/7 DB bartops downgraded
Well, they were so crowded how can you blame them?
In a message dated 12/2/2005 7:02:44 PM Pacific Standard Time,
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According to the the LV locals grapevine the 10/7 DB
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Bartenders don't make a living on their wages. They make it on their tips.
If they aren't getting tips they (and anyone else competent) aren't going to
work for you. Not a difficult concept.
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Chandler
Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 6:00 AM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [vpFREE] Tuscany 10/7 DB bartops downgraded
Why would management be concerned with how much bartenders get tipped?
Chandler
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Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 12:27 AM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [vpFREE] Tuscany 10/7 DB bartops downgraded
BTW, I talked with one of the bartenders while the machines were down and
told him if they really were downgrading the paytables he would lose most of
his customers. He told me he was fine with that with few exceptions. It was
obvious from his response that to him it wasn't worth the hassle of dealing
with all the pros with the few tips he got. Since the card of the day was
implemented to get money into the bartenders pockets (why else would a
casino care if people gambled in that bar or somewhere else in the casino?)
you can blame all the greedy pros who were too cheap even to order a water
and tip a buck or throw him a few bucks when they hit the COD for this
plays' demise.
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 8:57 PM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Tuscany 10/7 DB bartops downgraded
Well, they were so crowded how can you blame them?
In a message dated 12/2/2005 7:02:44 PM Pacific Standard Time,
vpfae6128305@Cox.net writes:
According to the the LV locals grapevine the 10/7 DB
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You are missing something. The bar is owned and run by the hotel, not
the casino. The hotel may have been the one to decide to downgrade
the machines because they may have been costing them drink revenue.
We'll never know.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
That is the casino's fault - not ours. BJ goes to 6-5 yet we are
still supposed to support dealers' pay. VP games pay less yet the
casino can't raise wages. It is not players who are cheap but these
huge corps who are. I don't care if casinos can't find employees for
low pay 1 bit.
Bartenders don't make a living on their wages. They make it on
their tips.
If they aren't getting tips they (and anyone else competent) aren't
going to
work for you. Not a difficult concept.
From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpF鈥鈥om] On
Behalf Of
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Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 6:00 AM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [vpFREE] Tuscany 10/7 DB bartops downgradedWhy would management be concerned with how much bartenders get
tipped?
Chandler
From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpF鈥鈥om]On
Behalf Of
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Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 12:27 AM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [vpFREE] Tuscany 10/7 DB bartops downgradedBTW, I talked with one of the bartenders while the machines were
down and
told him if they really were downgrading the paytables he would
lose most of
his customers. He told me he was fine with that with few
exceptions. It was
obvious from his response that to him it wasn't worth the hassle of
dealing
with all the pros with the few tips he got. Since the card of the
day was
implemented to get money into the bartenders pockets (why else
would a
casino care if people gambled in that bar or somewhere else in the
casino?)
you can blame all the greedy pros who were too cheap even to order
a water
and tip a buck or throw him a few bucks when they hit the COD for
this
plays' demise.
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To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Tuscany 10/7 DB bartops downgradedWell, they were so crowded how can you blame them?
In a message dated 12/2/2005 7:02:44 PM Pacific Standard Time,
vpfae6128305@C... writes:According to the the LV locals grapevine the 10/7 DB
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BTW, I talked with one of the bartenders while the machines were down and
told him if they really were downgrading the paytables he would lose most of
his customers. He told me he was fine with that with few exceptions. It was
obvious from his response that to him it wasn't worth the hassle of dealing
with all the pros with the few tips he got. Since the card of the day was
implemented to get money into the bartenders pockets (why else would a
casino care if people gambled in that bar or somewhere else in the casino?)
you can blame all the greedy pros who were too cheap even to order a water
and tip a buck or throw him a few bucks when they hit the COD for this
plays' demise.
It's the lazy pros who didn't organize all pros into tipping enough,
including verification and enforcement, who are responsible for this
play's demise. Meetings should have been held. Officers should have
been elected. Non-conformists should have been punished. I would
have done it but I was too lazy.
If you're going to lie to make money, I'm sure there are better ways
than tipping bartenders for drinks that you don't want in a futile
attempt to prolong a play like this.