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Turning Video Poker into a Slot

I was talking about the Williams machine type you mentioned. I live in the Chicago Area where Williams is based and these machines were around here for three to four years. In addition to the great BJ game, they had their own vp game called multi-pay poker. Some paid 100-1 rather than 50-1 for the straight flush (also paying the straight and the flush). This game paid 7-1 on full houses (+trips + 2 pair +high pair if the full house included aces or kings) and is 100.24%. It is included on Frugal VP. We also had two machines at the Joliet Harrah's for a short time that had 10-7 DB for quarters. These games disappeared not only because of the good games but these games also had what video game designers call an "Easter egg". The programmer rigged the program so that by a certain series of button presses the double up feature could be rigged into a sure win for the player. The Chicago Area casinos lost over $150,000 by themselves to this. Williams and the programmer have been sued by the casinos. The programmer fled to Canada and last I heard was fighting extradition to this country. For a time, the Chicago Area had corrected versions of this machine and in the BJ game, surrender was eliminated to give the house a slight edge.

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----- Original Message -----
From: eecounter
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 8/6/2003 5:59:47 PM
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Turning Video Poker into a Slot

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Howard Stern" <howard.w.stern@e...>
wrote:

Virtually all major makers of VP machines have an option that

the operator can set to have the machine show what it thinks is the
correct hold... The Williams machines have horrible strategies that
give up at least 3%....<<<<<<

Several years ago Williams came out with a video blackjack game on
some of their multi-game machines that had a very favorable set of
rules which actually provided the player with an advantage in the
vicinity of 0.2% or so. This game, combined with a good cash back
rate, could be extremely attractive (which is why they didn't last
much more than a year). Anyway, I remember playing some of these
machines which had the "suggested hold" feature turned on. I also
remember that these machines FREQUENTLY gave incorrect advice. Once
or twice I got in a hurry and accidently forgot to alter the
machine's (incorrect) suggestions and wound up misplaying a hand.
Very aggravating. To be fair to Williams, there was a disclaimer on
the machines that stated something like "suggested holds may not
always provide the optimal play".

EE

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