I was in Tunica earlier this month. I updated the Horseshoe and Roadhouse pages on my website:
https://sites.google.com/site/sevenstarsinsider/horseshoe-tunica
https://sites.google.com/site/sevenstarsinsider/tunica-roadhouse
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Darryl
On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 5:17 AM, <vpF…@…com> wrote:
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Digest #9939
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Re: Royal Flusher trip - the Blunder Down Under by "Royal Flusher"royalflushervegas
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Does anyone go to Tunica? by boobert54
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Re: Does anyone go to Tunica? by "William Draper"draper.will…@…com
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Re: Does anyone go to Tunica? by boobert54
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Re: Possible tax changes by "Trish Olsen"trish5170
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Re: Possible tax changes by "ken orgera"rnoek
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Wow Review (Rio) by "Misscraps"misscraps
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Bob Dancer Column - 26 DEC 2017 by "vpFREE3355"vpfree_3
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Scot Krause's Reel Deals - 26 DEC 2017 by "vpFREE3355"vpfree_3
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Scot Krause's Slot Club Spotlight - 26 DEC 2017 by "vpFREE3355"vpfree_3
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Nero's Sunday brunch buffet reservations? by stut70
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changes at aq laughlin by "snow"jasnow57
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Re: changes at aq laughlin by dds2124
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NCL Escape, long long review (skip if not interested....) by "Misscraps"misscraps
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aq laughlin by "snow"jasnow57
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Mon Dec 25, 2017 8:15 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Royal Flusher" royalflushervegas
The full report is now available. 12 flights, four countries, 25,000 miles.
http://www.royalflushervegas.com/p/blunder-down-under-trip-report.html
On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 7:12 PM, Royal Flusher <royalflus…@…com>
wrote:
Hi y’all, in case you hadn’t bumped into it, there’s a verrrrry long trip
report just finishing up.
The Quad Queen and I did a 3 week trip, starting with a few nights in
Vegas, and then over to Australia (where we gambled), and to New Zealand,
and back to Australia and the Great Barrier Reef (where we gambled), and
then back to Vegas again.
The trip report page is in reverse order:
http://www.royalflushervegas.com/p/blunder-down-under-trip-report.html
If you wanted, you could go to the bottom, click the last post, and then
work through it using Next Post.
Enjoy!
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Flusher Way www.royalflushervegas.com
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Way www.royalflushervegas.com
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Mon Dec 25, 2017 12:19 pm (PST) . Posted by:
boobert54
I haven’t been there in over 10 years, but it used to be fun. Where can I get up to date info? Did they ever do anything with the closed Harrah’s ?
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Mon Dec 25, 2017 3:10 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"William Draper" draper.will...@...com
I live about 4 hours away and go about 10 or 12 times a year. Harrah’s is
still closed and doesn’t show any sign of life. Caesars still has two
properties there, Horseshoe and Roadhouse, which are side by side. These
are the two that I mostly go to. VP is not that great there but I like the
atmosphere, people and food. They are also reasonable with the comps. They
have $1 9/5 JOB and 8/5 at 25 cents. Sams Town still has 9/6 at 25 cents
and $1. I was an emerald there for over 20 years but have quit them due
the way they have cut their comps and just the lack of interest in their
costumers. If you were there 10 years ago, it is still about the same.
Not much to do except the Casinos. The Mississippi River Boat Cruise no
longer runs. You need a car to travel between the Casinos as they are
grouped 3 together,2 together, then 1,1,1. No shuttle between. Ballys
recently changed ownership and now is called First Jackpot. VPFree 2 has
what looks to be an accurate listing of the VP but you have to look under
Gulf Coast to find Tunica.
Bill
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I haven’t been there in over 10 years, but it used to be fun. Where can I
get up to date info? Did they ever do anything with the closed Harrah’s ?
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Mon Dec 25, 2017 6:53 pm (PST) . Posted by:
boobert54
Thanks William, that helps. I liked horseshoe and sheraton in the days before cet took them over. I may visit in the spring when I do a midwest visit.
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Mon Dec 25, 2017 3:43 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Trish Olsen" trish5170
Child tax credit is phased out as income level is higher
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Tue Dec 26, 2017 1:32 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"ken orgera" rnoek
I believe they kept the senior deductions.
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That is true. good catch.
On Sunday, December 24, 2017 3:54 PM, “C clement…@…com [vpFREE]” <vpF…@…com> wrote:
Child tax credit doubled from $1000 to $2000 per child. Credits are substantially better than deductions.
On Dec 24, 2017, at 6:31 AM, Howard Stern pyi…@…netmailto:pyi...@...net [vpFREE] <vpF…@…commailto:vpF...@...com> wrote:
Also be aware that the elimination of the personal exemption hurts! If you are a senior, I think the second exemption is lost too.
Also no exemption for the kids? If so non itemizers with three kids for a married couple is barely better than a push under the new law.
Any more kids is a loser!
On Sunday, December 24, 2017 6:58 AM, “Hing Tan mikeam7…@…commailto:mikeam7...@...com [vpFREE]” <vpF…@…commailto:vpF...@...com> wrote:
Good information. Excellent example.
Do you know the mortgage interest is deductible under the new tax law?
Thanks
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On Saturday, December 23, 2017, 7:38 PM, harry.por…@…netmailto:harry.por...@...net [vpFREE] <vpF…@…commailto:vpF...@...com> wrote:
For the sake of a concrete example, here are my circumstances (filing jointly):
2017 itemized deductions were $25000. Taxes paid to state and local authorities (referred to as SALT - state and local taxes) were $15000.
Under the 2018 SALT cap of $10000, I’ll lose the benefit of $5000 in tax deductions. My allowable itemized deductions are reduced to $20000. In absence of gaming activity, I would take the standard deduction of $24000, gaining $4000 in deductions.
Now, let’s add some modest gaming activity and presume that during the year $12k in w-g jackpots were hit, that these wins are reported as gross winnings, and that overall gaming activity netted a loss (so a offsetting gaming loss deduction of $12k is taken).
Here’s where things get a bit ugly. Yes. gaming losses can be declared to the extent of going wins, thus a wash in this case. However, to the extent that total itemized deductions are increased to the $24000 standard deduction through declared gaming losses, the benefit of otherwise taking the standard deduction is reduced $ for $.
In the above example, the added $4000 deduction benefit (via the standard deduction) is lost with the first $4000 in gambling losses. Assuming a 35% marginal tax rate, gambling activities impose an effective tax penalty of $1400.
—In vpF…@…commailto:vpF...@...com, <onetime7500@…> wrote :
Since gambling losses are not subject to the 2% AGI floor, they are still allowed under the new law.
The problem for many folks will be the much higher $24,000 standard deduction if married, $12,000 if single. If you need to deduct losses, you will miss out on this higher standard deduction. Given that state and local taxes are limited to $10,000, this is likely to be a hidden tax on gambling for many people.
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Mon Dec 25, 2017 11:42 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Misscraps" misscraps
This is a highly enjoyable show, suitable for kids of all ages too （No doubt the best show in town to bring children too actually). It uses the theme of water to combine acts such as dancers, jugglers, acrobatics, even a archer (crossbow expert), and more, into an interesting show. Extremely lovely vistas are projected on the walls of this newly redesigned theater at the Rio (you might remember it from the ill-fated Duck Dynasty musical and as the Scintas theater before that, as well as home for other shows). The visuals and music (though canned) greatly enhanced the show.
It is hard to describe the whole thing, but it was very enjoyable even to my Vegas-jaded psyche. While not as spectacular as Cirque shows or Le Reve, Wow has its moments, and definitely is worth seeing.
While it is currently on the Diamond/7 Star freebie list, you may well have trouble getting tickets using the vouchers, because they allocate only a very limited number of freebie tickets, and the vouchers have to be used within 3 days of getting them now. You can pick up vouchers at any Total Rewards and take them to the box office of the property you are in (you no longer need to go to the property where the show is to get tickets). I tried 3 times before I could get tickets through total rewards.
If worst comes to worst you’ll have to pay for tickets, and they are worth it. Children will really like the colorful costumes, beautiful scenery, funny comedians, Pirates and Mermaids, jugglers, and death-defying acts. For that matter, so will adults.
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Tue Dec 26, 2017 10:00 am (PST) . Posted by:
"vpFREE3355" vpfree_3
Bob Dancer Column - 26 DEC 2017
Is There a Different Strategy and How Can I Be Sure? — Part II of II
https://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/gambling-with-an-edge/different-strategy-can-sure-part-ii-ii/
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Tue Dec 26, 2017 3:41 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"vpFREE3355" vpfree_3
Scot Krause’s Reel Deals - 26 DEC 2017
Ringing in 2018 in style with casino specials in Las Vegas
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Scot Krause's Slot Club Spotlight - 26 DEC 2017 ](https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/vpFREE/conversations/topics/137778;_ylc=X3oDMTJzODYxNm0yBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzQ2NDEwMTcEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDY1NzMyBG1zZ0lkAzEzNzc3OARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxNTE0NTQyNjU2)
Tue Dec 26, 2017 3:42 pm (PST) . Posted by:
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Scot Krause’s Slot Club Spotlight - 26 DEC 2017
Jerry’s is still a Nugget with the MoreClub slot rewards
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Nero's Sunday brunch buffet reservations? ](https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/vpFREE/conversations/topics/137779;_ylc=X3oDMTJzMGVwazhmBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzQ2NDEwMTcEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDY1NzMyBG1zZ0lkAzEzNzc3OQRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxNTE0NTQyNjU2)
Tue Dec 26, 2017 3:44 pm (PST) . Posted by:
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(Atlantic City location)
How do I make reservations to this $70/person buffet? (Would like a table by the window.)
the phone # on the website leads to the hotel call center in Vegas and is useless.
anyone have the direct #?
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changes at aq laughlin ](https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/vpFREE/conversations/topics/137780;_ylc=X3oDMTJzYTJldGJnBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzQ2NDEwMTcEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDY1NzMyBG1zZ0lkAzEzNzc4MARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxNTE0NTQyNjU2)
Wed Dec 27, 2017 4:49 am (PST) . Posted by:
"snow" jasnow57
any one know whats going on at aq laughlin? appears they have gotten rid of the $1 db.
thanks
jas
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Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:33 am (PST) . Posted by:
dds2124
I was at the Aquarius in Laughlin last week. They downgraded the $1 10/7 DB, with a progressive for the RF and 4 aces. The new pay-table is now 9/7.
However, the $1 10/6 DDB with a progressive for the RF and 4 aces w/kicker is still there.
The $.25 10/7 DB is still there as well.
With new ownership comes changes.
Don the Dentist
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NCL Escape, long long review (skip if not interested....) ](https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/vpFREE/conversations/topics/137782;_ylc=X3oDMTJzcWRvMXZlBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzQ2NDEwMTcEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDY1NzMyBG1zZ0lkAzEzNzc4MgRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxNTE0NTQyNjU2)
Wed Dec 27, 2017 7:23 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Misscraps" misscraps
Have been on 11 NCL cruises and this was the worst. NCL keeps deteriorating, and the overcrowding of this ship just made things worse. Public areas have been replaced by too many restaurants (29 of which 5 are free!), so there is no where to sit and enjoy reading a book or enjoying staring at the ocean except in your room.
My big complaint— the Atrium is used for noisy shows and games like Deal or No Deal and even karaoke (so that we could all hear the bad singers, whether we wanted to or not). Atrium is packed when these activities occur, so not only is every chair taken, a whole bunch of people stand around watching, and if you are not seated you cannot see what is going on. The loud sound system and yelling carries throughout the area, which is also where the information deck, computer area, and shore excursion desk are located, so at times you can hardly hear if you need to go to one of these areas. Activities like the Not so Newleywed game, Thriller Dance Class, Big Pyramid Game show, line dancing, etc., might be fun in smaller rooms with plenty of seating, but here they are loud and impossible to see unless you are one of the lucky ones who arrive early. The whole idea of a warm and welcoming Atrium area is destroyed. Further, the sounds carry upward into the casino (already a noisy area) and O’Sheehan’s Bar and Grill. O’Sheehan’s (free) was one of our favorite places to eat on other ships like the NCL Pearl, where we could enjoy quiet breakfasts, snacks, or off-normal-time lunches with a sea view. Here it is constantly crowded and noisy, often with a long wait line for seats. The whole ambience and greatness of the place is ruined by the noise (no sea view either). Not enough lounge areas meant that even trivia ended up in the Atrium. And because of the crowds, if you sat there, bar service was very very slow.
Crowding because of over 5000 guests extended to the pool areas, where lounge chairs were put into every available space and walkway, even lying side by side without space between chairs, so if you lay down it seemed like you were in one giant lounge bed for 6 people (your new best friends). Only the waterfront deck outside had good places to sit and watch the view and maybe play cards or talk with friends, but in inclement weather it was useless (and when a ship is moving during Dec. the cold air and wind make this area unusable for a lot of time).
Reservations were usually needed for all the shows and specialty restaurants, and sometimes even main (free) dining rooms. (Freestyle my eye!!) Upon boarding we booked the shows for the week and found many were already marked Sold Out. Fortunately you often could arrive at showtime and get in to Headlines and Main Escape Theater shows, but for the Supper Club the non-reserve wait line started an HOUR early, and not everyone got in. The 6 pm Supper Club made little sense to me, since different acts showed there, but the (free) set meal was always the same, so would you want to eat there twice? Some shows without food were at 9 pm. Generally the shows were free there and good (Ben Zemzer Comedy Magic was so intriguing my friends went twice; and The Flyboys 4 piece singing group was great, though a short show at 45minues). But why was Jalynn Steele’s Supper Club cabaret show an extra $29.95 plus gratuity? (Sorry, I had never heard of her so didn’t pay for that one!) There were two big production shows — AFTER MIDNIGHT based on the Cotton Club was FANTASTIC, a great show, Broadway quality, excellent tap dancers, singers, dancers (highlight of the trip for me, and the best show I have seen at sea), and THE BRAT CLUB, energetic singers and dancers and a horrible plot that made no sense —some people liked it, I didn’t, and do not sit in the first few rows or people will be dancing behind you. Levity Entertainment group provided comedians…they got better in “adult” sessions. Some of the smaller acts had poor singers — the dueling pianists in Howl at the Moon could play really well but were not great singers, for example, and the singalong pianist wasn’t very funny and was not a good singer (at least to me).
Food in the specialty restaurants was excellent and service there better than normal for NCL. Moderno great, Teppanyaki lots of food and entertaining, La Bistro best of cruise (dover sole to die for). Breakfast in the free Savor and Taste very good, with a large menu and excellent service. Service there better than the free Manhattan room (which sometimes has a singer or pianist). The buffet food good, but very similar night to night, and like on many NCL ships, too crowded so you normally had to hunt for seats. In the search for more profit, NCL has added more Ala Carte restaurants and even some of the normal specialty ones like Cagney’s have ala carte pricing unless you book a specialty package. If you have specialty package you generally were limited to one appetizer, main course, and desert (entree worth under $20), but that did not bother us, If all you want to do on a cruise is eat, this is the ship for you— unfortunately we like to do other stuff too!
Be prepared for constant calls to buy stuff, and almost all daily activities are really promotions to buy things, from the Fly Boys CD to spa treatments to art [check Ebay prices before buying] to watches and bingo. The casino is the biggest on an NCL ship, but do not expect loose machines. The good news is there was a nonsmoking area. There are all kinds of ad-on charges for stuff that used to be free, like room service. You have to pay for a special spa package or there is no access to the snow room they tout, even if you buy a regular spa treatment. One good deck area had a fee, and some ship areas were relegated to those people in First Class (that is, Haven Rooms). Yoga has a charge, slow internet gets more and more expensive, duty free liquor not much of a bargain, etc. Constant announcements tell you what is happening (even if you can read like I can and get the daily newsletters!)
Good news is that handicapped folks have cabins with wider doors and can open them with a button. The theater had a couple of rows roped off for handicapped folks, but strangely put chairs in the handicapped area that should be for wheelchairs. Overall getting around in my scooter was easier than in the badly designed Epic, but the elevators seemed small and fast.
Best thing onboard, comfortable beds. Also ship was extremely stable, even when the seas were rough.
Kids had their own area on Deck 5, and seemed happy with all the activities… The library is tiny, as is the card room. NCL constantly tries to sell you certificates to be used on another cruise (and I do mean constantly). The captain will wake you up daily at 10 am to tell you the latitude and longitude (available on the TV…), so much for relaxing and sleeping late… Muzak is constantly going in every bar and hallway. There is a jogging track, but with all the people, don’t expect to run very fast if at all… Kids will enjoy a bunch of slides, aqua area, and rope area (if weather is good…it wasn’t much of our December trip). The Tv basically has about 5 real channels [thank goodness for MSNBC, Fox News, and CNBC- I was sick part of the time], including a movie channel (ask front desk for a schedule), plus ship’s channels which run the same stuff over and over including the Not so Newleywed Game (why do’t they run more of their games?), then plus a pay channel for newer movies.
The overall design of the ship should have been good, but because there were fewer lounges or lounge areas, the crowding in the Atrium area often made the activities there unbearable. Be prepared to be nickel, dimed, and now dollared to death on this big NCL ship. Bring your earplugs for the Atrium, spend quiet time in your room or on your own balcony, and pray for good weather so some of the people go outside (and so you do not miss ports as we did for more sea days).
Finally, do NOT buy port to airport transfers from NCL as we did, or you could find yourself waiting for two hours in the Miami sun (or rain) without cover or chairs for nonexistent buses! (and do not exit the dock without a bathroom break because once outside they will not let you back in and the only “facility” is a filthy portable type shed with rickety stairs and rails and no wheelchair access) - shame on Port of Miami!and even karoke (so that we could all hear the bad singers, whether we wanted to or not). Atrium is packed when these activities occur, so not only is every chair taken, a whole bunch of people stand around watching, and if you are not seated you cannot see what is going on. The loud sound system and yelling carries throughout the area, which is also where the information deck, computer area, and shore excursion desk are located, so at times you can hardly hear if you need to go to one of these areas. Activities like the Not so Newleywed game, Thriller Dance Class, Big Pyramid Game show, line dancing, etc., might be fun in smaller rooms with plenty of seating, but here they are loud and impossible to see unless you are one of the lucky ones who arrive early. The whole idea of a warm and welcoming Atrium area is destroyed. Further, the sounds carry upward into the casino (already a noisy area) and O’Sheehan’s Bar and Grill. O’Sheehan’s (free) was one of our favorite places to eat on other ships like the NCL Pearl, where we could enjoy quiet breakfasts, snacks, or off-normal-time lunches with a sea view. Here it is constantly crowded and noisy, often with a long wait line for seats. The whole ambience and greatness of the place is ruined by the noise (no sea view either). Not enough lounge areas meant that even trivia ended up in the Atrium. And because of the crowds, if you sat there, bar service was very very slow.
Crowding because of over 5000 guests extended to the pool areas, where lounge chairs were put into every available space and walkway, even lying side by side without space between chairs, so if you lay down it seemed like you were in one giant lounge bed for 6 people (your new best friends). Only the waterfront deck outside had good places to sit and watch the view and maybe play cards or talk with friends, but in inclement weather it was useless (and when a ship is moving during Dec. the cold air and wind make this area unusable for a lot of time).
Reservations were usually needed for all the shows and specialty restaurants, and sometimes even main (free) dining rooms. (Freestyle my eye!!) Upon boarding we booked the shows for the week and found many were already marked Sold Out. Fortunately you often could arrive at showtime and get in to Headlines and Main Escape Theater shows, but for the Supper Club the non-reserve wait line started an HOUR early, and not everyone got in. The 6 pm Supper Club made little sense to me, since different acts showed there, but the (free) set meal was always the same, so would you want to eat there twice? Some shows without food were at 9 pm. Generally the shows were free there and good (Ben Zemzer Comedy Magic was so intriguing my friends went twice; and The Flyboys 4 piece singing group was great, though a short show at 45minues). But why was Jalynn Steele’s Supper Club cabaret show an extra $29.95 plus gratuity? (Sorry, I had never heard of her so didn’t pay for that one!) There were two big production shows — AFTER MIDNIGHT based on the Cotton Club was FANTASTIC, a great show, Broadway quality, excellent tap dancers, singers, dancers (highlight of the trip for me, and the best show I have seen at sea), and THE BRAT CLUB, energetic singers and dancers and a horrible plot that made no sense —some people liked it, I didn’t, and do not sit in the first few rows or people will be dancing behind you. Levity Entertainment group provided comedians…they got better in “adult” sessions. Some of the smaller acts had poor singers — the dueling pianists in Howl at the Moon could play really well but were not great singers, for example, and the singalong pianist wasn’t very funny and was not a good singer (at least to me).
Food in the specialty restaurants was excellent and service there better than normal for NCL. Moderno great, Teppanyaki lots of food and entertaining, La Bistro best of cruise (dover sole to die for). Breakfast in the free Savor and Taste very good, with a large menu and excellent service. Service there better than the free Manhattan room (which sometimes has a singer or pianist). The buffet food good, but very similar night to night, and like on many NCL ships, too crowded so you normally had to hunt for seats. In the search for more profit, NCL has added more Ala Carte restaurants and even some of the normal specialty ones like Cagney’s is ala carte pricing unless you book a specialty package. If you have specialty package you generally were limited to one appetizer, main course, and desert (entree worth under $20), but that did not bother us, If all you want to do on a cruise is eat, this is the ship for you— unfortunately we like to do other stuff too!
Be prepared for constant calls to buy stuff, and almost all daily activities are really promotions to buy things, from the Fly Boys CD to spa treatments to art [check Ebay prices before buying] to watches and bingo. The casino is the biggest on an NCL ship, but do not expect loose machines. The good news is there was a nonsmoking area. There are all kinds of ad-on charges for stuff that used to be free, like room service. You have to pay for a special spa package or there is no access to the snow room they tout, even if you buy a regular spa treatment. One good deck area had a fee, and some ship areas were relegated to those people in First Class (that is, Haven Rooms). Yoga has a charge, slow internet gets more and more expensive, duty free liquor not much of a bargain, etc. Constant announcements tell you what is happening (even if you can read like I can and get the daily newsletters!)
Good news is that handicapped folks have cabins with wider doors and can open them with a button. The theater had a couple of rows roped off for handicapped folks, but strangely put chairs in the handicapped area that should be for wheelchairs. Overall getting around in my scooter was easier than in the badly designed Epic, but the elevators seemed small and fast.
Best thing onboard, comfortable beds.
Kids had their own area on Deck 5, and seemed happy with all the activities… The library is tiny, as is the card room. NCL constantly tries to sell you certificates to be used on another cruise (and I do mean constantly). The captain will wake you up daily at 10 am to tell you the latitude and longitude (available on the TV…), so much for relaxing and sleeping late… Muzak is constantly going in every bar and hallway. There is a jogging track, but with all the people, don’t expect to run very fast if at all… Kids will enjoy a bunch of slides, aqua area, and rope area (if weather is good…it wasn’t much of our December trip). The Tv basically has about 5 real channels [thank goodness for MSNBC, Fox News, and CNBC- I was sick part of the time], including a movie channel (ask front desk for a schedule), plus ship’s channels which run the same stuff over and over including the Not so Newleywed Game (why do’t they run more of their games?, plus newer pay movies.
The overall design of the ship should have been good, but because there were fewer lounges or lounge areas, the crowding in the Atrium area often made the activities there unbearable. Be prepared to be nickel, dimed, and now dollared to death on this big NCL ship. Bring your earplugs for the Atrium, spend quiet time in your room or on your own balcony, and pray for good weather so some of the people go outside (and so you do not miss ports as we did for more sea days).
Finally, do NOT buy port to airport transfers from NCL as we did, or you could find yourself waiting for two hours in the Miami sun (or rain) without cover or chairs for nonexistent buses! (and do not exit the dock without a bathroom break because once outside they will not let you back in and the only “facility” is a filthy portable type shed with rickety stairs and rails and no wheelchair access) - shame on Port of Miami!
Next cruise - Royal Caribbean, may be our last ever…27 taken, most of them free or almost free due to gambling…
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Fri Dec 29, 2017 2:17 am (PST) . Posted by:
"snow" jasnow57
anyone know whats going on at AQ laughlin? new owners. seems that the $1 db is gone
thanks
jas
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