There's been so much chatter about Tuna I was hoping someone knew the full story of his nickname, "Tuna, the big fish".
I heard he got it fishing diamond wedding rings out of the Truckee river in Reno, where failed spouses cast them after messy divorces.
I'd love to know if that's fiction or fact.
Oh, lets all try to remember Tuna is dead and that it is bad form to talk ill of the dead.
~FK
If he is the big stinky slob that sat next to me the other evening at the VP machine's along with a woman on the other side blowing cigar smoke & squeezing into my space, I'd say it was the smell. Of course, I lit up a cigarette and started blowing smoke back along with yelling "I love you dear" down the row to another machine to my husband & they were off and running. Whomever it was, I was glad for the cigar smell to somewhat cover up the body odor. lol. I've never been intimidated.
~ ¤(¯`*•.¸(¯`*•.¸ Meredith ¸.•*´¯)¸.•*´¯)¤ ~
My New Years Resolution is "That I will be less laz"
--- On Sun, 1/2/11, Frank <frank@progressivevp.com> wrote:
From: Frank <frank@progressivevp.com>
Subject: [vpFREE] Tuna the whole story
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, January 2, 2011, 1:52 AM
There's been so much chatter about Tuna I was hoping someone knew the full story of his nickname, "Tuna, the big fish".
I heard he got it fishing diamond wedding rings out of the Truckee river in Reno, where failed spouses cast them after messy divorces.
I'd love to know if that's fiction or fact.
Oh, lets all try to remember Tuna is dead and that it is bad form to talk ill of the dead.
~FK
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It's a grapevine story so keep that in mind. I heard Tuna actually put the name on himself as a cover for his prowess in poker games.
As for the weddings rings when Nevada legalized gambling in the early thirties they also legalized no fault divorce, but with the qualifier that one had to be a six-week resident of the state. Reno became the divorce capitol of the U.S. Women came from all over to divorce. In those days landlords rented by six-weeks not by the month.
One lady, after receiving her divorce papars, walked out onto the Virginia Street bridge over the Truckee river. She cast here wedding band into the river. It caught on with other women and became a traditon.
In the movie "The Misfits, 1961" Marilyn Monroe and Thelma Ritter are standing on the bridge with Marilyn, just divorced, having her wedding band in hand when Thelma says "Go ahead, honey, throw it."
After several decades of rings going into river it was Tuna Lund who waded out with a geiger counter or something like that and came up with a couple coffee cans full of rings.
Well no that couldn't have been him. To quote Monty Python:
He has He has ceased to be! 'E's expired and gone to meet 'is maker! 'E's a stiff! Bereft of life, 'e rests in peace! 'Is metabolic processes are now 'istory! 'E's off the twig! 'E's kicked the bucket, 'e's shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!! THIS IS AN EX-PRO-GAMBLER!!
To be less funny about it, Hans Lund (AKA Tuna the Big Fish) is no longer with us. He employed many people I called friend at one time or another, so even despite his possible failings, he left his mark on society. and contributed something. I can only hope I will be talked about as much after my own passing. Though I pray (to Joe Pesci) it will be slightly more positive, I will be happy if I'm not forgotten.
~FK
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Meredith And Kenny <meredithandkenny@...> wrote:
If he is the big stinky slob that sat next to me the other evening at the VP machine's along with a woman on the other side blowing cigar smoke & squeezing into my space, I'd say it was the smell. Of course, I lit up a cigarette and started blowing smoke back along with yelling "I love you dear" down the row to another machine to my husband & they were off and running. Whomever it was, I was glad for the cigar smell to somewhat cover up the body odor. lol. I've never been intimidated.
~ ¤(¯`*â¢.¸(¯`*â¢.¸ Meredith ¸.â¢*´¯)¸.â¢*´¯)¤ ~
My New Years Resolution is "That I will be less laz"--- On Sun, 1/2/11, Frank <frank@...> wrote:
From: Frank <frank@...>
Subject: [vpFREE] Tuna the whole story
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, January 2, 2011, 1:52 AMÂ
There's been so much chatter about Tuna I was hoping someone knew the full story of his nickname, "Tuna, the big fish".
I heard he got it fishing diamond wedding rings out of the Truckee river in Reno, where failed spouses cast them after messy divorces.
I'd love to know if that's fiction or fact.
Oh, lets all try to remember Tuna is dead and that it is bad form to talk ill of the dead.
~FK
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Then we have some conformation that the story I heard about The Big Fish may well be true. You know Tuna gets some bad press, but fishing out those discarded rings was pure genius. Wish I'd thought of it.
~FK
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Mickey" <mickeycrimm@...> wrote:
It's a grapevine story so keep that in mind. I heard Tuna actually put the name on himself as a cover for his prowess in poker games.
As for the weddings rings when Nevada legalized gambling in the early thirties they also legalized no fault divorce, but with the qualifier that one had to be a six-week resident of the state. Reno became the divorce capitol of the U.S. Women came from all over to divorce. In those days landlords rented by six-weeks not by the month.
One lady, after receiving her divorce papars, walked out onto the Virginia Street bridge over the Truckee river. She cast here wedding band into the river. It caught on with other women and became a traditon.
In the movie "The Misfits, 1961" Marilyn Monroe and Thelma Ritter are standing on the bridge with Marilyn, just divorced, having her wedding band in hand when Thelma says "Go ahead, honey, throw it."
After several decades of rings going into river it was Tuna Lund who waded out with a geiger counter or something like that and came up with a couple coffee cans full of rings.
Dulaney, Garmann, and Felesina did the actual work in the summers of 76=78. Old man Charlie Mapes (aka Mr. Potter) didn't have any skin in the action, so he kept the heat on, trying to get RPD to trespass the team and force the crowds watching back into his casino grind joint. But everybody knows they were really working for Tuna. Who hasn't worked for Tuna at some point?
http://www.nevadamagazine.com/issues/read/reno-vated/
Just to make the story more interesting, the find was supposedly "lost" or fenced to support Tuna's wife's hobby. Everybody knows that Tuna cached it somewhere. The question is where? If you were Tuna, where would you cache a bunch of gold and silver where nobody but Tuna could find it?
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Mickey" <mickeycrimm@...> wrote:
After several decades of rings going into river it was Tuna Lund who waded out with a geiger counter or something like that and came up with a couple coffee cans full of rings.
Very interesting story. I had heard the story from poker players in Reno well over twenty years after the event but a much different story by then.
Tuna did have a relative with a bad drug problem. I met her one time at the Golden Gate in Vegas. I don't know if she was still on drugs then, this was in the year 2000. She told me that she and Tuna didn't get along and didn't talk.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "nightoftheiguana2000" <nightoftheiguana2000@...> wrote:
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Mickey" <mickeycrimm@> wrote:
> After several decades of rings going into river it was Tuna Lund who waded out with a geiger counter or something like that and came up with a couple coffee cans full of rings.Dulaney, Garmann, and Felesina did the actual work in the summers >of 76=78. Old man Charlie Mapes (aka Mr. Potter) didn't have any >skin in the action, so he kept the heat on, trying to get RPD to >trespass the team and force the crowds watching back into his casino >grind joint. But everybody knows they were really working for Tuna. >Who hasn't worked for Tuna at some point?
http://www.nevadamagazine.com/issues/read/reno-vated/
Just to make the story more interesting, the find was >supposedly "lost" or fenced to support Tuna's wife's hobby. >Everybody knows that Tuna cached it somewhere. The question is >where? If you were Tuna, where would you cache a bunch of gold and >silver where nobody but Tuna could find it?
Thanks for the link to that article. I remember as a kid back in the 50's and 60's going down to the So. Virginia street bridge and watching the guys in a swim mask and snorkel looking for wedding rings. I don't know if they found much, but my cousin told me a lot of the high school kids would be down there. Brrrr. that water was cold too.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "nightoftheiguana2000" <nightoftheiguana2000@...> wrote:
Dulaney, Garmann, and Felesina did the actual work in the summers of 76=78. Old man Charlie Mapes (aka Mr. Potter) didn't have any skin in the action, so he kept the heat on, trying to get RPD to trespass the team and force the crowds watching back into his casino grind joint. But everybody knows they were really working for Tuna. Who hasn't worked for Tuna at some point?
Mow that I think about it, excavation and sifting through the sand and rock would be the most thorough way to handle the project. Dulaney, Garmann, and Felesina being placer miners would have the requisite skills to pull the job off.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "nightoftheiguana2000" <nightoftheiguana2000@...> wrote:
Dulaney, Garmann, and Felesina did the actual work in the summers of >76=78. Old man Charlie Mapes (aka Mr. Potter) didn't have any skin in >the action, so he kept the heat on, trying to get RPD to trespass the >team and force the crowds watching back into his casino grind joint. >But everybody knows they were really working for Tuna. Who hasn't >worked for Tuna at some point?
Another story I heard about Tuna is he once hit a Pick 6 Horse Racing ticket for a gargantuan sum of money. I know some of his history in video poker, slot progressives, video keno progressives, and he showed a big profit in tournament poker but if this story is true then maybe it would speak to his legend as an all-around strategic gambler.
I knew nothing of Pick 6 horse racing and did a little googling. I was wondering what his betting strategy might have been. I found out that it had or has a progressive jackpot. I wonder if they went positive in those days, or still do? Some of the strategy used are in these two sites. Tuna must have used similar strategy:
The second site gives some decent information. However, to my knowledge I have never known a Pick 6 to be "positive" where you were guaranteed a win if you took every combination. He probably used some handicapping and risk management skills to hit it but I would also say that he probably spent a lot buying all the combination that he needed to have a decent change of hitting it.
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To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
From: mickeycrimm@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 02:18:49 +0000
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Tuna the whole storyAnother story I heard about Tuna is he once hit a Pick 6 Horse Racing ticket for a gargantuan sum of money. I know some of his history in video poker, slot progressives, video keno progressives, and he showed a big profit in tournament poker but if this story is true then maybe it would speak to his legend as an all-around strategic gambler.
I knew nothing of Pick 6 horse racing and did a little googling. I was wondering what his betting strategy might have been. I found out that it had or has a progressive jackpot. I wonder if they went positive in those days, or still do? Some of the strategy used are in these two sites. Tuna must have used similar strategy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pick_6_(horse_racing)
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Yes, it would seem to me that one would have to wait until the jackpot got so high, then would have to have world class handicapping skills to have a theoretical advantage. Not to mention that one would have to have major bankroll to keep buying lots of combinations. And the willingness to eat the loss if you never hit one.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, kelso 1600 <kelso1600@...> wrote:
The second site gives some decent information. However, to my knowledge I have never known a Pick 6 to be "positive" where you were guaranteed a win if you took every combination. He probably used some handicapping and risk management skills to hit it but I would also say that he probably spent a lot buying all the combination that he needed to have a decent change of hitting it.
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I have witnessed many horse and dog racing "positive" pools where buying every combination will give you a guaranteed win. You are missing the key difference between a vp jackpot and parimutual jackpot. You can buy a win, but if all the favorites come in you will have to split the jackpot with many others rendering your "positive" bet very negative.
The bet is positive when you have estimated your chances of winning will produce more than you are betting (positive expectation). The difference with handicapping is your ability to estimate your chance of winning may be poor and cannot be determined with the mathematical certainty of vp.
The pools often become large enough that even a poor handicapper will have a positive expectation. This even happens with the lottery.
Chris
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, kelso 1600 <kelso1600@...> wrote:
The second site gives some decent information. However, to my knowledge I have never known a Pick 6 to be "positive" where you were guaranteed a win if you took every combination. He probably used some handicapping and risk management skills to hit it but I would also say that he probably spent a lot buying all the combination that he needed to have a decent change of hitting it.
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> Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 02:18:49 +0000
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> Another story I heard about Tuna is he once hit a Pick 6 Horse Racing ticket for a gargantuan sum of money. I know some of his history in video poker, slot progressives, video keno progressives, and he showed a big profit in tournament poker but if this story is true then maybe it would speak to his legend as an all-around strategic gambler.
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> I knew nothing of Pick 6 horse racing and did a little googling. I was wondering what his betting strategy might have been. I found out that it had or has a progressive jackpot. I wonder if they went positive in those days, or still do? Some of the strategy used are in these two sites. Tuna must have used similar strategy:
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