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Total Rewards Diamond Level

#1

In a message dated 5/7/06 4:30:51 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
bornloser1537@yahoo.com writes:

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My thoughts....

If you play "naturally" to attain the level, go for it. In my
opinion, it is not worth "extending" yourself beyond your normal
playing patterns to attain it,

In my case, I "went for it" (i.e., DIAD) since I was almost there
before I knew it, I was lucky and got a few good wins early on (a
royal and a set if deuces) and was able to comfortably go for it
without putting any money at risk.

....bl

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Greg" <ggriffith@...> wrote:
>
> I used to play quite a bit at Ceasar's before the conversion to
Total
> Rewards. Considering going back but was wondering if anyone could
> provide their opinion on the value of playing enough to achieve
Diamond
> level. Are the advantages that much greater that warrants the
level of
> play required. I've seen the brochure about what you get at that
level
> but what is the real story? Thanks for your thoughts.
>
> ggriffith76
>

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My experience and thoughts:

I did DinaD in Laughlin Jan 2005. It cost me $60 on the nickel 50-plays
doing 15-25 lines, even had two royals. Gave me new cards by 3pm, just in time to
find the Diamond Lounge.

I really value the perks. In Laughlin the Diamond check-in lounge opens at
8am. Even if there are no rooms available, they take care of business. They
target a room that is already vacant/not cleaned for you. They make keys, but
set them aside for later pick-up. I can wander away from the casino since I
know I am in the system.

As a frequent solo traveler I put alot of value on the Diamond Lounge. A
quick snack can take care of a meal. They usually have room to watch "the game"
on the plasmas. Sitting out on the veranda is unique. Laughlin flys in a few
plane loads every week, so you can usually BS with folks at the bar that
"aren't from around here".

I never valet park, but I can see the value for the preferred Diamond parking.

The indirect advantage of doing DinaD is the shot to your Trip/Daily average.
My mailbox was just filled starting six weeks later. As a normal $2-3k/day
player it was fun to pick through the offers. If you can take advantage and
get to the casino when HET wants you, it adds alot of value. My favorite
"specials" were the outdoor concerts usually with 2 or 3 weekend nights. I did a
bunch of tourneys too, which I was fed a three course banquet/open bar. I did
the "Winterfest" tourney at the Rio, my first time in the door.

I didn't worry about any play through the rest of 2005. If I did a really
short day or blew them off I didn't care. The gravy train lasted through
October. I ended up with just 3550 Tier points for the year, doing 2000 of them in
one day. Got my new cards last month since I actually qualified for 2006.
They just throw in the remainder of 2005, which was 360 days for me. So I am
good thru March/2007.

My offers are down to assorted comped weeknights May-July in Laughlin. The
"Renewal" codes for Vegas, 2-4 nights through 8/31 at the six (pick one)
casinos. The "Summerfest Slot" tourney during the summer in Vegas. So I gave them
a 1000 Tier point one day shot last trip to see if I can get some "specials"
again in the mailbox.

YMMV, but to me it was well worth it.

BS

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#2

GRAYTLEEGRAY wrote:

My experience and thoughts:

I did DinaD in Laughlin Jan 2005. It cost me $60 on the nickel
50-plays doing 15-25 lines, even had two royals.

It might be clarified that the Laughlin 50-play nickel JB is an
exceptional way to approach DIAD. Even at full coin, your bankroll
risk likely doesn't exceed that of putting through the $18K in on $.50
single line -- and you can do it in record time (and, by extension,
playing 25 lines - in excess of $6 per play - will have less risk than
$.25 single line for the coin in).

The warning I put out is that it doesn't make sense to jump
denomination (say from $.50 standard play to $1). In that case, if
you don't expect to be around the 50 hours or so required to pop
through $100K on $.50 play in a year, the benefit you'll get out of
Diamond likely won't warrant the increased bankroll risk of jumping
denom and having a good chance of a $1K-$2K+ loss in doing so.

Btw, it's been reported that until sometime this year, the nickel
50-line JB was particularly attractive -- it earned RC's similar to
slots -- 1 for every $5 coin in (1 for $10 appeared immediately; it
was reported that the additional credits didn't appear until you
reinserted your card). DIAD could be earned in a little more than 2
hours on just $9K coin-in. I'm told that the machine now earns at $10/RC.

- Harry

#3

That is correct guess they found the problem also my host today confirmed that 7 * renewal will be 100,000 this yeay instead of the 85,000 in past years, guess they maybe getting to many 7 * since the merger is my guess

My experience and thoughts:

I did DinaD in Laughlin Jan 2005. It cost me $60 on the nickel
50-plays doing 15-25 lines, even had two royals.

It might be clarified that the Laughlin 50-play nickel JB is an
exceptional way to approach DIAD. Even at full coin, your bankroll
risk likely doesn't exceed that of putting through the $18K in on $.50
single line -- and you can do it in record time (and, by extension,
playing 25 lines - in excess of $6 per play - will have less risk than
$.25 single line for the coin in).

The warning I put out is that it doesn't make sense to jump
denomination (say from $.50 standard play to $1). In that case, if
you don't expect to be around the 50 hours or so required to pop
through $100K on $.50 play in a year, the benefit you'll get out of
Diamond likely won't warrant the increased bankroll risk of jumping
denom and having a good chance of a $1K-$2K+ loss in doing so.

Btw, it's been reported that until sometime this year, the nickel
50-line JB was particularly attractive -- it earned RC's similar to
slots -- 1 for every $5 coin in (1 for $10 appeared immediately; it
was reported that the additional credits didn't appear until you
reinserted your card). DIAD could be earned in a little more than 2
hours on just $9K coin-in. I'm told that the machine now earns at $10/RC.

- Harry

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#4

It might be clarified that the Laughlin 50-play nickel JB is an
exceptional way to approach DIAD. Even at full coin, your bankroll
risk likely doesn't exceed that of putting through the $18K in on $.50
single line -- and you can do it in record time (and, by extension,
playing 25 lines - in excess of $6 per play - will have less risk than
$.25 single line for the coin in).

I'm a VP neophyte. But I bought a few bokks on strategy.

Sorry for the dumb question.

But does not playing 25 lines necessitate reading 25 hands and
making decision on Each of them independently?

I can see how this would be slightly faster than 25 seprate full
coin one line hands, but not a lot faster.

Am I missing siomething am I wrong?
WHAT EXACTLY DOES PLAYING 25 LINES OR 50 LINES at max coin mean??

I thoght that it meant that you got dealt 25 independent, seprate
hands at once. ( or 50 hands with 50 line
Thanks

#5

It will also makes Harrah's Lauhglin your home casino and will get the majority of your offers from there.

compsvegas <poker212724@yahoo.com> wrote: > It might be clarified that the Laughlin 50-play nickel JB is an

exceptional way to approach DIAD. Even at full coin, your bankroll
risk likely doesn't exceed that of putting through the $18K in on $.50
single line -- and you can do it in record time (and, by extension,
playing 25 lines - in excess of $6 per play - will have less risk than
$.25 single line for the coin in).

I'm a VP neophyte. But I bought a few bokks on strategy.

Sorry for the dumb question.

But does not playing 25 lines necessitate reading 25 hands and
making decision on Each of them independently?

I can see how this would be slightly faster than 25 seprate full
coin one line hands, but not a lot faster.

Am I missing siomething am I wrong?
WHAT EXACTLY DOES PLAYING 25 LINES OR 50 LINES at max coin mean??

I thoght that it meant that you got dealt 25 independent, seprate
hands at once. ( or 50 hands with 50 line
Thanks

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