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Here it is!

Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 15:33:18 -0500
From: Rob Singer <rsinger1111@cox.net>
Subject:
To: jacobsrb@muohio.edu
Organization: vptruth.com

Why don't you post this on vpfree....

I've had an agreement with Tom for some time now that I would only send a response to those who make uninformed and/or inflamatory comments about me - expecting no defensive posture. Tom invited me -- and I accepted under his guidelines. Why don't you simply vote rather than try to cause trouble for yourself or radiate your unflattering personality......

Rhonda Jacobs, MCIS
Miami University
Administrative Systems Support
312M1 Hoyt Hall
513-529-8534 - jacobsrb@pager.muohio.edu
"Enjoy the day"

That's a NASTY email? Come on now, that is hardly what
I would call nasty.I am not so sure in this instance I
would even consider "unflattering personality" an
insult.
It would surely seem that your opinion of Mr. Singer
is unflattering.Maybe you just took it the wrong way.

       Steve Bork

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--- Rhonda Jacobs <jacobsrb@muohio.edu> wrote:

Here it is!

>Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 15:33:18 -0500
>From: Rob Singer <rsinger1111@cox.net>
>Subject:
>To: jacobsrb@muohio.edu
>Organization: vptruth.com
>
>Why don't you post this on vpfree....
>
>I've had an agreement with Tom for some time now
that I would only send a
>response to those who make uninformed and/or
inflamatory comments about me
>- expecting no defensive posture. Tom invited me --
and I accepted under
>his guidelines. Why don't you simply vote rather
than try to cause trouble
>for yourself or radiate your unflattering
personality......

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<snip>

Good point. There's been much worse than this posted publicly within
the group, from regular members. Privately, there's been
considerably worse from at least one member, whose silence on this
issue is very surprising. . .

Not saying that I approve of any uncivil posts, just that it's
probably worth giving RS a shot.

mc

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, steve bork <stevebork@y...> wrote:

That's a NASTY email? Come on now, that is hardly what
I would call nasty.I am not so sure in this instance I
would even consider "unflattering personality" an

I agree the "unflattering personality" remark was pretty mild.
The part that bothered me a little was the " why are you making
trouble for yourself ". That might sound threatening to some people.

George Connor

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, steve bork <stevebork@y...> wrote:

That's a NASTY email? Come on now, that is hardly what
I would call nasty.I am not so sure in this instance I
would even consider "unflattering personality" an
insult.
It would surely seem that your opinion of Mr. Singer
is unflattering.Maybe you just took it the wrong way.

       Steve Bork

Good point. There's been much worse than this posted publicly within
the group, from regular members. Privately, there's been
considerably worse from at least one member, whose silence on this
issue is very surprising. . .

Is this referring to me, or am I just being vain? I don't recall
sending nasty private emails to anyone, except perhaps BS, but then,
it would not be impossible and I might just be forgetting something
I wrote.

No matter. I do have a little to say.

Since BS can assume any Yahoo ID he wishes, I see no problem
with granting him a moderated status. I have no doubt that
our Benevolent Administrator will keep things from getting
out of hand.

If our BA decides some of the private emails from RS have been
too abusive and withdraws his invitation on that basis, I can
live with that too.

QZ

"Keep your friends close and your enemies closer"

snip

Is this referring to me, or am I just being vain?

Nope, it's not you. (Not implying that you're vain :slight_smile:

Since BS can assume any Yahoo ID he wishes, I see no problem
with granting him a moderated status. I have no doubt that
our Benevolent Administrator will keep things from getting
out of hand.

Another excellent point. He could have joined at any time, and
responded to the comments made about him. He has not done so, I
believe out of respect for Tom.

Since the people with the strongest opinions against RS are the ones
most likely to vote, I would doubt that he'll get a fair shot at
membership. This would seem to be a case in which an executive
decision might be in order. Since he would be moderated, there seems
to be little risk. Guess I'm always on the side of the underdog. . .

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Quad Zilla" <quadzilla666@e...> wrote:

I'm generally in favor of RS participating here under fairly stringent
guidelines. These guidelines would be driven in part by a history of
what has been on occasion unreasonably antagonistic behavior, but also
due to the tendency of some to inappropriate feel that they must rise
to the occasion and "give WORSE than they receive".

Perhaps "unfairly", Rob would need to take responsibility to ensure
that his behavior avoids the former AND doesn't take a form to provoke
the latter. Of course, it's recognized that there will be a few
people who seem determined to misinterpret even the most benign
comment and charge into it, and he can hardly be held culpable for that.

That said, any RS comment (public or private, that is related to his
participation on vpFREE) of an unnecessary inflamatory nature would be
unacceptable, no matter how modest. If he's unwilling to exercise
considerable discretion and restraint (possibly to an extent somewhat
extreme under other circumstances) then he should decline Tom's
invitation.

Unfortunately, his comment to Rhonda ("unflattering personality" in a
private email is of this character. No matter what past history he
may have had with her, a note concerning vpFREE should NEVER cast a
gratuitious and counter productive negative aspersion:

- Harry

Rhonda Jacobs wrote:

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Here it is!

>From: Rob Singer <rsinger1111@c...>
>
>Why don't you post this on vpfree....
>
>I've had an agreement with Tom for some time now that I would only
>send a response to those who make uninformed and/or inflamatory
>comments about me - expecting no defensive posture. Tom invited me
>-- and I accepted under his guidelines. Why don't you simply vote
>rather than try to cause trouble for yourself or radiate your
>unflattering personality......