Those that dont Tip seem to be folks that have never
had a job that depended on Tips.
Right to work states like Nevada/Arizona, etc. pay
thier employees just enough to cover the amount the
employees are taxed on thier tips. Typically they do
not even recieve a pay check.......
RL
You might be right. I never had a job that depended on tips for
income, but I've worked alongside of many who do.
Let me see if I can rephrase the point I tried unsuccessfully to make.
Enployees are expected to do their job.
People tip or don't tip for reasons of their own. That's all there is
to it.
I referred to "good tippers," not expected percentage tippers or tip
for exceptional service tippers. There are always exceptions, so
let's reduce the discussion to a majority of good tippers. These
people, me included, tip because they gain something from the action.
We might know what that is or we may not. Maybe it's acknowledging an
inclination to share; perhaps it's an attempt to buy friendship or
approval on the installment plan or it's the desire to be remembered
by employees when we return. My Dad was a good tipper and I am too,
so maybe it's just learned behavior. Who knows?
We tip well because we want to do it.
In general, we do what we do and don't care what others do because it
doesn't impact us. We have our own rationalizations and have no need
of the rationalizations of non-tippers or minimal tippers who lack
the courage to be a non-tipper.
Maybe it's only one opinion, but I will continue to believe that
one's attitude towards tipping pre-exists before any servers are
encountered and before services are ever performed and that the level
of service that is provided does little to change that.
We do what we do.
I'll chime in one time on this topic only to say that I don't like the
"forced tipping" usually 18%, even when it's not necessarily a "large
party." And then there's still usually another additional open tipping line
on the receipt. I suppose to catch unsuspecting people that don't look at
the bill to see that the gratuity had already been included.
Regards,
Scot
the "forced tipping" usually 18%, even when it's not necessarily a
"largeparty." And then there's still usually another additional open
tipping line on the receipt. I suppose to catch unsuspecting people
that don't look at the bill to see that the gratuity had already been
included.
Regards,Scot
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Scot Krause" <krauseinvegas@...> wrote:
I'll chime in one time on this topic only to say that I don't like
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I have one tip for you Scot: Avoid South Beach. That sucker
technique has worked successfully for years down there. The
international clientèle are easy Marks for those preying on the naive.
Avoid South Beach. That sucker
technique has worked successfully for years down there. The
international client�le are easy Marks for those preying on the naive.
---What/where is South Beach?
Scot
I wonder that if these employees get double tipped if it shows up on there W-2's as it should.
I have one tip for you Scot: Avoid South Beach. That sucker
technique has worked successfully for years down there. The
international clientèle are easy Marks for those preying on the naive.
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South Beach is in Miami (remember the "South Beach Diet"?) It's an
expensive, trendy area where quaint little 1940's hotel rooms cost
$275/night and bacon and eggs on the sidewalk is $11.50 + $3 for
coffee. The young well-off party crowd goes there to.. well.. party;
and to rub albows with the rich and famous.
I'm with you Scot about forced tipping, although I understand it for
large parties, say 8 or more.
Another place you'll see gratuities included is in New York City. I've
had a check for 2 include 15%. I tipped my normal 20% and then
realized what had happened on the way out. I stopped and got the
manager to retrieve the 15% for me.
Mac
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Scot Krause" <krauseinvegas@...> wrote:
Avoid South Beach. That sucker
technique has worked successfully for years down there. The
international clientèle are easy Marks for those preying on the naive.---What/where is South Beach?
Scot
By the way, this topic always reminds me of a great website:
http://www.cocktaildoll.com/tippingtips.htm
Not only for the tipping tips but the rest of the site is great too,
with many funny situations and "tales from the trenches" cocktailing in
Las Vegas.
Yes. Dollie's site is funny, alright. A freakin' riot.
Dollie: "The drinks are complimentary. Complimentary means the drinks are
free, the service is not."
Oh, yeah? Since when?
Dollie: "High rollers play dollar machines like normal people play nickel
machines....the very minimum they should tip is five dollars per drink. This
applies whether they're winning or losing."
$5 per drink? Nope. I don't think so.
Dollie: "Tipping first is smart if you give at least a dollar. If you give
me fifty cents and tell me to hurry back with your Grey Goose and tonic, you
may be sorely disappointed at how slowly I hurry back. I might even forget
your drink."
You tip in advance and she might forget your drink. Yeah, very funny.
~Curtis
On 5/16/08, Mac McClellan <mac_mcclellan@hotmail.com> wrote:
By the way, this topic always reminds me of a great website:
http://www.cocktaildoll.com/tippingtips.htm
Not only for the tipping tips but the rest of the site is great too,
with many funny situations and "tales from the trenches" cocktailing in
Las Vegas.Mac
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