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"Their Money"

Lawrence Boxer suggests you play at your "comfort level" unless you
are well ahead, and are playing with "their money".

As far as I'm concerned, once I've won it, it's "my money", and if
I'm not willing to play for higher stakes before winning it, I
certainly won't after.

I totolly agree! However, a number of friends think that once they have the casino's money in their pocket, they start betting BIG, i.e. $1 VP.
It seems to be working, but I'm like you and think that it's not often I do have their money in my pocket and I will be darned to give it back to them without a fight! I sometimes wonder if I would be much farther ahead if I could break this mind-set.
neilemb <nembree@aol.com> wrote:Lawrence Boxer suggests you play at your "comfort level" unless you
are well ahead, and are playing with "their money".

As far as I'm concerned, once I've won it, it's "my money", and if
I'm not willing to play for higher stakes before winning it, I
certainly won't after.

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As far as I'm concerned, once I've won it, it's "my money", and if
I'm not willing to play for higher stakes before winning it, I
certainly won't after.

Typical "conservative" strategy is to bet low and increase the bet after
you've made substantial gains, giving yourself a "loss limit," at which
point you quit. It's common money management strategy, and it also increases
the comfort level of a player. Of course it's your money, but if you are
playing anyway, it's better to do it with money you've won than with the
kid's braces.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "neilemb" <nembree@aol.com>
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 2:37 PM
Subject: [vpFREE] "Their Money"

Lawrence Boxer suggests you play at your "comfort level" unless you
are well ahead, and are playing with "their money".

As far as I'm concerned, once I've won it, it's "my money", and if
I'm not willing to play for higher stakes before winning it, I
certainly won't after.

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Bill, and everyone,

As far as I'm concerned, once I've won it, it's "my money", and if
I'm not willing to play for higher stakes before winning it, I
certainly won't after.

Not to be nit-picky, but your previous post attributes the above quote to
me. What I wrote is a reply to the above. I guess it's a mechanical thing
with many email programs to attribute an entire post, however many quotes
from various people it contains, to the last person who posted on that
subject.

I've noticed that this happens a lot, and I'd like to suggest that when
people post replies to previous messages, they make sure the person being
quoted is actually the one who made the comment. It's not a big deal in
this case, but sometimes it can be. Thanks.
lb

Comfort level; perhaps. Actually difference, in reality? None.<<

Why do you say there's no difference? If you bet more you stand to win more.
Yes, you also stand to lose more, and that's why the strategy says get well
ahead first, then press up. And set a loss limit on each session. The
question isn't so much whether or not to press up, it's really how do you
get well ahead at the lower level in the first place.

lb

>
> Typical "conservative" strategy is to bet low and increase the bet after
> you've made substantial gains, giving yourself a "loss limit," at which
> point you quit. It's common money management strategy, and it also

increases

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> the comfort level of a player.

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Comfort level; perhaps. Actually difference, in reality? None.

You might be at a loss at the end of several sessions, and finally
either recoup or jump ahead at the end of a particular session. Your
winnings at that point need to be considered in light of your life-time
play, as far as I'm concerned.

But you're right. You don't need to be playing with the money you need
for other things, whether it's for braces or for your rent.

Cheers.

Bill Velek

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I totolly agree! However, a number of friends think that once they have the
casino's money in their pocket, they start betting BIG, i.e. $1 VP.

  They are GAMBLING, not playing to win. Remember, the Las Vegas
is the world's largest monument to the ignorance of the common gambler.

<<<
It seems to be working, but I'm like you and think that it's not often I do
have their money in my pocket and I will be darned to give it back to them
without a fight! I sometimes wonder if I would be much farther ahead if I
could break this mind-set.

  Forget everything about how much you won or lost recently. When you
decide what to play, use a combination of your advantage and your bankroll
( current, future, and psychological ) to decide. If you are playing within
your bankroll, this decision will not change because you manage to hit a
royal
or 2.

  There are some excellent reasons to 'take a shot' at a higher
denomination game, but doing so simply because you are on a winning
streak is not one of them.

  QZ

Besides, now that Benny's no longer with us, where can you find a
casino these days that'll fade the kid's braces? <g>

--- In vpFREE@y..., "Lawrence Boxer" <ljboxer@e...> wrote:

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Of course it's your money, but if you are playing anyway, it's
better to do it with money you've won than with the kid's braces.

Besides, now that Benny's no longer with us, where can you find a

casino these days that'll fade the kid's braces? <g> <<

lol !!

Did you read the story in Dick Odessky's book "Fly on the Wall" about the
guy at the craps table who accidentally spit his dentures out onto the craps
table? A pit boss took out his own dentures, tossed them on the table, and
shouted "You're faded!"

Wow! That's exactly the story your message reminded me of. How cool!
We must be psychic (or is that "psychotic?").

--- In vpFREE@y..., "Lawrence Boxer" <ljboxer@e...> wrote:

>>Besides, now that Benny's no longer with us, where can you find a
casino these days that'll fade the kid's braces? <g> <<

lol !!

Did you read the story in Dick Odessky's book "Fly on the Wall"

about the

guy at the craps table who accidentally spit his dentures out onto

the craps

table? A pit boss took out his own dentures, tossed them on the

table, and

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shouted "You're faded!"

Wow! That's exactly the story your message reminded me of. How cool!

We must be psychic (or is that "psychotic?").<<

Psychotic is good, at least it can be treated. That is probably the
funniest gambling story I've ever heard. Great incidents like that one
don't happen anymore. Those kinds of characters are long gone.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "kephus" <kephus@yahoo.com>
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 1:30 PM
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: "Their Money"

Wow! That's exactly the story your message reminded me of. How cool!
We must be psychic (or is that "psychotic?").

--- In vpFREE@y..., "Lawrence Boxer" <ljboxer@e...> wrote:
> >>Besides, now that Benny's no longer with us, where can you find a
> casino these days that'll fade the kid's braces? <g> <<
>
>
> lol !!
>
> Did you read the story in Dick Odessky's book "Fly on the Wall"
about the
> guy at the craps table who accidentally spit his dentures out onto
the craps
> table? A pit boss took out his own dentures, tossed them on the
table, and
> shouted "You're faded!"

Bill,

Many thanks for your detailed explanation. Absolutely not a major problem
at all and no hard feelings whatsoever. In fact, your taking the time to
explain your editing, and to let me know that my editing is also sometimes
confusing, is very much appreciated. Most likely, I'll just respond on top
in the future, without re-inserting portions of previous messages. Or
something. <g>

lb

What?
<g>

Allen

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At 09:56 AM 11/19/02, you wrote:

Most likely, I'll just respond on top
in the future, without re-inserting portions of previous messages. Or
something. <g>