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The Wizard of Odds: Las Vegas Casino Blacklist

#1

What casino do you work for or are you the Manager from the Strat racebook?

Geeez....

May you find a multi million dollar winning lottery ticket the day after it expires (:

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From: brentevans73 <brentevans73@yahoo.com>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 2, 2008 6:40:11 PM
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: The Wizard of Odds: Las Vegas Casino Blacklist

Coulda; shoulda; woulda revisited. The Wiz screwed up. Now, by using
the threat of negative publicity on a well-liked site, he wants
someone else to assume the blame for his lack of attentiveness. There
was a token disclaimer when the Wizard suggested that he intended to
move the discussion to another site. But he didn't, did he? What he
did do was to use the popularity of his home website in an attempt to
bludgeon the Stratosphere into paying.

Nothing against the Wizard of Odds, but he's wrong. By his reasoning,
when I miss a vp hold I should inform management and demand that they
pay me for the cards that I would have picked had I been alert. What
about a craps game when I have the premonition that a seven will roll
next and wipe out my place bets, but I let the bets up anyway because
I'm distracted? Should the dealer negate my loss by acknowledging my
first intent when I mention it four days later?

There is a time limit placed on almost all wagers and contests. State
lotteries come to mind. Whether the time restriction is for 60 days,
60 years, or 60 hours is immaterial. Rules were established by the
casino. Rules were broken by the bettor. Why is the casino the bad
guy for following the rules?

I believe that the only negative public they will engender will be
among folks who don't pay attention to their bets and want casino
rules to apply to everyone, save them.

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#2

The question remains what do most people think is fair? 6 months, 1
year, 2 years? Keep in mind, the casino does have some accounting
costs and other stuff to deal with as long as it's on the books. How
about after 1 year, you don't get your winnings but just our original
bet back and after 2 years you loose it all?

Yes, there are people who say that the casino should pay no matter
what, but that is never going to happen.

-Dave

What casino do you work for or are you the Manager from the Strat

racebook?

Geeez....

May you find a multi million dollar winning lottery ticket the day

after it expires (:

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----- Original Message ----
From: brentevans73 <brentevans73@...>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 2, 2008 6:40:11 PM
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: The Wizard of Odds: Las Vegas Casino Blacklist

Coulda; shoulda; woulda revisited. The Wiz screwed up. Now, by using
the threat of negative publicity on a well-liked site, he wants
someone else to assume the blame for his lack of attentiveness. There
was a token disclaimer when the Wizard suggested that he intended to
move the discussion to another site. But he didn't, did he? What he
did do was to use the popularity of his home website in an attempt to
bludgeon the Stratosphere into paying.

Nothing against the Wizard of Odds, but he's wrong. By his reasoning,
when I miss a vp hold I should inform management and demand that they
pay me for the cards that I would have picked had I been alert. What
about a craps game when I have the premonition that a seven will roll
next and wipe out my place bets, but I let the bets up anyway because
I'm distracted? Should the dealer negate my loss by acknowledging my
first intent when I mention it four days later?

There is a time limit placed on almost all wagers and contests. State
lotteries come to mind. Whether the time restriction is for 60 days,
60 years, or 60 hours is immaterial. Rules were established by the
casino. Rules were broken by the bettor. Why is the casino the bad
guy for following the rules?

I believe that the only negative public they will engender will be
among folks who don't pay attention to their bets and want casino
rules to apply to everyone, save them.

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#3

mrdave2006:

The question remains what do most people think is fair? 6 months, 1
year, 2 years? Keep in mind, the casino does have some accounting
costs

These are probably what justify the expirations legally, although most
sports books would probably honor tickets that haven't been expired
for very long. I've had that experience with slot machine cash out
tickets. Several of mine have expired, but I've always collected on
them, although at one place, the supervisor who was deciding whether
to pay me or not first said she thought my ticket was more than a year
old and she wouldn't pay it. I once lost 2 sports tickets that were
worth a little over $2000 each. Since I could identify the bets I had
made and no one turned them in, I collected on them shortly after they
expired.