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#21

I practice a lot on win poker and frugal video poker. I try to play as
close to full pay as I can. I'm pretty lucky. I cash out after a $500
or better win. Peppermill always gives me free rooms and several
hundred bucks free play, plus 100 coin bonus and free eats. I'm a math
based guy and don't believe in the singer system. It doesn't add up.

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "John" <three2theroyal@y...>

wrote:

Don't worry about me, I win plenty. I take three or
> four trips to Nevada each year and use my comps and play DDB. I'm
> coming home about 80% of the time with more than I went with.

Are you using RS's system to enjoy this extraordinary good result?

If

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "ozymandias77096" <ugwf@h...> wrote:

not, to what do you atribute the 80% win rate?

#22

This is the debut post aceshii made on FreevpFREE on 6/16/05. Notice
that a total stranger is referring to rgmustain as "Dick."

I'm taking this over here because I don't think people know how to
handle it "over there", or it might not be allowed on vpfree.

Dick says: (Don't get too excited. If past events mean anything RS

will

either back out or try to change the bet along the way.)

I don't think that's the case. If I remember, back a little you

and he

were betting/arguing about who has more money in cash? or something
silly like that. That was Internet forum fodder. This time

there's

several reputable organizations involved, it's in a publication,

and

money has changed hands. RS has also offered up to do things none

of

the others who claim to win would ever do, and there's more of them
than there is of him. I'd like to see you, who claims to have more
money than him and believes he's a liar and a fraud just as the

radio

jock does, to walk the walk and back up the radio guy since he

probably

doesn't have the cash. Jean Scott also chimed in about the

Westin.

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "aces_hii" <aces_hii@...> wrote:

Perhaps she, with her non-stop yearly winning streaks, can spare a
frugal sum to go along with yours to total the amount that Singer's
challenge entails.

#23

This is post #1989, rgmustain responding to aceshii's post. Check
out the last paragraph. rgmustain is not fooled one bit about who
really made the post.

First of all, I have no idea what the "bet" is. I hope this radio
jockey understands that the RS method does increase the odds of
winning in a single session. It just doesn't change your long term
expectation as I've said MANY times.

Second, get your facts straight. I never claimed to have MORE money
than anyone. I simply claimed to have more than a specific AMOUNT

of

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@...> wrote:

money.

Next, anyone who claims mathematically PROVEN valid techniques are
invalid and that a modified progressive system can somehow overcome
negative games IS a fraud.

Finally, just how are you and RS related? If you can't answer this
qustion honestly then don't bother replying at all.

Dick

#24

This is post #1990. Notice that aceshii is pointing out that
rgmustain has called Singer a liar and a fraud many times. But how
would aceshii know that? He was extremely knew to the site. Rob
hadn't been on the site for 6 months. He makes the excuse that he
looked it up.

A) Maybe you should read the article as identified before posting

something negative next time. It's more of a challenge than a bet,
of RS's past 8 years performance as his website depicts. The radio
jock is like you, saying he couldn't have net something like
$640000.

B) OK, I wasn't sure what your and his claims were during the

silly bet. You did say that you had and were willing to risk
somewhere around this $740000, correct? The point is that if you're
so sure of yourself that he's a liar and a fraud (I just looked that
up and you did say that numerous times) now's the time to back those
words up all the way to the bank. Instead of doing what the others
do and continually announce that he's not real, give him the chance
to fall on his face. Otherwise, that radio jock isn't the only one
he's going to make a fool of.

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Aces High <aces_hii@...> wrote:

#25

In post #1991 rgmustain makes the following statement..

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@...> wrote

Two possibilities exist for anyone who supports RS. Either you're a
sucker or you're him. Not very sound credentials in either case.

Dick

#26

In post #1992 it's easy to tell that aceshii/Singer is starting to
get ruffled.

Your tirade made you miss the entire point of what I said. Who

cares how his system of play affects others at this point in time?
That's not the issue. Take a closer look, read it this time, and
don't get so ruffled over it.

I never saw any proof that RS is a liar OR a fraud aside from your

ongoing vitriol about how it's not possible for him to win using
negative games. He in fact seems very capable of proving he did win
what he said he did. The point you sped by was that now you have the
chance to actually prove him wrong, unless you either accept the fact
that he won, you don't really have the money you bark that you say
you do, or you're just plain afraid to face him. You keep on saying
his system has no validity, yet you seem comfortable being critical
from the safety of your computer and will not walk the walk after
you've talked the talk for so long. He says he wins playing his way;
you say he cannot. Unless of course you take the chicken little
approach when facing the possibility of a big bet, and give us "it's
possible but not probable". That kind of attitude is for babies.

I re-read the whole exchange, and you surely did want a bet with

him, only it appears it was YOU who backed down when he was requiring
cash be made available and you just wanted to view Internet sites.
If that's the case, I can say I have more than both of you put
together, but you can't prove it so it's totally meaningless.

Maybe in your mind you believe you made a fool of Singer, but when

I was in LV a few weeks ago I picked up a Gaming Today and his
article had a piece about you, and he made a fool of you to the whole
world. If I remember correctly, there was a lot about a poster
named "Dick" who was critical as stated above, but the best part was
how this "Dick" claimed not to be addicted to the game, yet he
claimed to have hit 26 royals in a recent 6-month period. Ouch! Now
I see why you despise Singer so much. He seems to have your number
and you can't get it back. But here's your chance to step up and
take it back. Cover his bet. How else are you going to save face?

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#27

An excerpt from post #1993--- In
FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@...> wrote

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Come on, Rob, get out from behind your assumed ID and face me again.
The only thing I have against you is claiming that people, in
general, can win long term on negative expectation machines. Many
have proven it can't be done. I've proven that it can't be done, but
you persist in claiming otherwise. Oh, and for the record ONE MORE
TIME. I could care less whether you've personally won or lost.

Dick

#28

And excerpt from post #1994

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "aces_hii" <aces_hii@...> wrote:

I'll tell you what. If you want me to be Elizabeth Taylor today, you
got it! How about Clint Eastwood? Anyone you want, just think it.
But they'll all be Rob Singer to you, because whoever supports any
part of what he writes IS him to you. I see he has THAT kind of
effect on you.

#29

An excerpt from post #1995. aceshii, who started his career on
FREEvpFREE just a few days before as somewhat affable has gone into
full blown Rob Singer mode. He can't help himself.

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "aces_hii" <aces_hii@...> wrote:

Dick:
Now we get to who I am. My name is Tom. I suggested maybe you'd
like me to be Elizabeth Taylor because you might have an ugly wife.
Clint Eastwood because it's easy to see you wish you had his balls.
But in reality, I really do think you wish you were Rob Singer. He's
more than got your number. He's reached in and grabbed your soul and
put it on display for everyone here and in gamingtoday to see.
NOBODY does that to YOU!

#30

Another FREEvpFREE member has sniffed poor aceshii out in post #1996.

After all this time we have another singer-spewin' idiot. Glad you
could make it. It's been pretty boring around here without old
Robbie to kick around. Well, Tom or Rob or whoever you are, you

seem

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "John" <three2theroyal@...> wrote:

pretty good at criticizing your betters but what about you. Regale
us poor simps with your tales of winning and inform the general
gaming community of the tremendous wins you have using the singer
system for people who don't understand math. I personally have won
over $600,000 in the last 6 years playing video poker, I have also
lost a considerable sum. The trick is to win more than you lose.
That, my friend, isn't part of the long term singer strategy.
Praise the idiot all you want, just please tell us all how you do
overall using ass-clown singers tips. You may want to go over
to "cooler poker", singer is an administrator on that site and I
think they have had about 3 posts in 4 months. But you will find
kindered spirits who love to slice and dice the ones who actually
write something worth reading.

#31

Our man John decides to hammer aceshii again in post #1998.

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "John" <three2theroyal@...> wrote:

Glad you could cut your "busy weekend" short to post your
reply. I have to agree with Dick, you must be singer
or maybe his boyfriend. Nobody would become so irate over little
robbie unless this was oh-so personal. If you would remove your
proboscis from singers posterior you would see the real view of the
singer system. If you tell me that you win every time then I know you
are a liar, just like your false god robbie.

#32

aceshii keeps the con going in post #1999.

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "aces_hii" <aces_hii@...> wrote:

Got my chores done and I'm getting ready for a hot date. Something
tells me you're on the dying side of 40.

If you believe Robbie is a liar, here's your chance of a lifetime.
I'm sure he'll take your challenge instead of the radio guy, or even
your poor misunderstood cyberspace homo Dick's. Then we'll see how
much "plenty" really means. I think you're a little behind. RS has
a net win of $640k, and he is betting $740k CASH with whomever

doesn't believe him, I guess starting with that radio jock. I'm sorry
you >don't have the discipline to hang onto what you've won. I never
did >either until I met him in New Orleans and he showed me a few
things. >Now when I play vp, I rarely go home without more money than
I left >with.

#33

Our man John pummels aceshii some more in post #2000.

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "John" <three2theroyal@...> wrote:

Actually, I'm over 50 and dating women of all different ages. Screw
the stupid bet!! Robbie is a liar and a fraud and I would get no
satisfaction from betting how much money he has. I don't care. Best
I can tell he is about the most miserable man I've ever had the
pleasure to best in an online forum. What about everything else?? If
you aren't singer then clue us in on the inner gaming style of Tom,
or rob or whoever you are. You and singer have fun on your "hot
date". Later.

#34

rgmustain jumps back in i post #2001.

--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@...> wrote:
Your logic is so weak and yet you have no problem posting it. Amazing!
Of course, you won't post your name, will you? Not a surprise given the
content of your posts.

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If your not Rob, then who are you? Verifiable information only.

Dick

#35

rgmustain strikes again in post #2002

Aceshii Wrote:

> Now we get to who I am. My name is Tom. I suggested maybe you'd
> like me to be Elizabeth Taylor because you might have an ugly
wife.
> Clint Eastwood because it's easy to see you wish you had his
balls.
> But in reality, I really do think you wish you were Rob Singer.
He's
> more than got your number. He's reached in and grabbed your soul
and
> put it on display for everyone here and in gamingtoday to see.
> NOBODY does that to YOU!

Rgmustain wrote:

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@...> wrote:

Sure TOM. What was your last name again?? I missed that.

Give me a break.

#36

In post #2005 aceshii just can't hide Rob Singer anymore.

Dick, I feel I know you after reading freevpfree for the past

week.

BINGO! You're so insecure, you really need the last

word. "Setting

the record straight" is your term for that isn't it, and I've never
seen anyone requiring the need to build a sense of self-
accomplishment in front a bunch of nobodys. I think I see you'd
never be able to bet RS on anything because you'd bicker about
putting up the cash, if you really have any, and he has no problem
with doing that. (Leaving money with Tom??? Is that a joke?)
Someone who plays that much vp has to be sick. Justifying your

habit

as "a job" is what leads people to GA, and I don't mean Georgia.

I'm tired after getting laid four times tonight. CAN YOU REMEMBER
back that far when even ONCE was a miracle???

Now when you awaken from your Rip-van-Winkle and read this, I know
your blood pressure pills will have to be doubled up on until you

get

it off your chest again here. So please take it easy that you may
enjoy many more wasted hours at the machines, where one who has the
need to say "I have more than $740000" has no choice but to spend
most of every waken hour at a stupid video poker machine for a
thrill. Too bad it wasn't Elizabeth Taylor! Oooo! Oooo! I just

got

the need to say I have more than a million dollars, and it makes me
feel WONDERFUL that a zero like you knows it now! In fact, it's
absolutely true and I can prove it on an Internet site with a
password and all that! Not that I'll ever have to prove it to
anyone, but it makes me feel good to at least say it! Especially

in

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "aces_hii" <aces_hii@...> wrote:

my olden years where not much is fun anymore, that is, except my
habit with video poker. Oooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!

#37

Excerpts from Post #2006.

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--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@...> wrote:

It's getting harder and harder for you to sound like someone else,
isn't it Robbie
The Rob Singer insults have arose in full bloom. Give up the
deception, your own posts make it so obvious. You even use the exact
same insults you used before.
Keep 'em comming Robbie. I love it when your small mind comes apart
at the seams.

Now, please come back with more of your inane arguments and
schoolyard insults. It shows the whole world just what a small,
unhappy person you are.

Dick