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The "tool box" for pros in 2014?

#1

From: “funny.young…@…com”

I’m under the impression that a lot of the bonus items you mentioned are either
not available or greatly reduced to players at the 100%+ machines. More

specifically, I basically play exclusively at Stations. Am I wrong about that?

You’re not wrong that benefits are greatly curtailed for play on 100% machines at most casinos and especially at Stations. And there’s a risk of getting permanently banned from all mailers/promotions/multipliers if you play only the good machines and/or win too much.

I believe that most successful vp players play sub-100% games and get slot club benefits that make up the difference, but that usually takes a bigger bankroll than playing 25c FPDW.

#2

I’m ok with the bigger bankroll and even playing -EV games. But I guess I just don’t know enough about the better promotions. I have a nightmare of ending up with a bunch of gaudy jackpot jackets that I have to convert to cash :slight_smile:

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On Jan 8, 2014, at 4:03 PM, Oblah Dah <oblah…@…com> wrote:

From: “funny.young…@…com”

I’m under the impression that a lot of the bonus items you mentioned are either
not available or greatly reduced to players at the 100%+ machines. More

specifically, I basically play exclusively at Stations. Am I wrong about that?

You’re not wrong that benefits are greatly curtailed for play on 100% machines at most casinos and especially at Stations. And there’s a risk of getting permanently banned from all mailers/promotions/multipliers if you play only the good machines and/or win too much.

I believe that most successful vp players play sub-100% games and get slot club benefits that make up the difference, but that usually takes a bigger bankroll than playing 25c FPDW.

#3

These days if you’re playing a machine with a known overlay, you should probably decline tracking, just as you should probably decline tracking at a table game where you know there is an overlay, due to card flashing or whatever. The problem is that the penalty for getting tracked probably way exceeds the small rewards you can get off the card. Also there’s the issue of taxes. Even if you’re not generating W2G’s, if you’re getting tracked you might just get an audit when you thought you could fly under the radar. Of course if you’re generating W2G’s or SAR’s, then you are getting tracked anyway. W2G’s kick in at $1200 payoffs, SAR’s are undefined but certainly at $10k accumulated and if they suspect you of “structuring” at any amount. You might consider getting a good accountant and a good lawyer beforehand, ones experienced in gambling issues. Jean Scott has talked about her accountant, and numerous lawyers have appeared on the GWAE radio show.