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PLEEEEEAAAAASSSSSEEEE STOP!
CF
In a message dated 4/27/2006 5:47:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
rgmustain@att.net writes:
In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rsing1111" <rsinger1111@...>
wrote:
> > > I think I'll re-insert the statement that hurt little dicky so
> much
> > > he just couldn't STAND it!! HAHAHAHAHAHA!! Here it is again!!
> (Oh,
> > > just IMAGINE the pain and agony this nerd is sufferring thru
> right
> > > now....just imagine!).
> >
> > LMAO. Trying to convince yourself? ... AGAIN. Sorry, even you
know
> > better. This was an obvious attempt to keep me from responding to
> the
> > idiotic lies and assertions by opt-shill. Once again, you failed
> > miserably.
>
> No, it's purpose was to extract exactly the foolishness you spouted!Sure it was ... you always like to see me demonstrate your ideas are
worthless ... no problem, I always will.>
> > > You DO realize that you are taking a spike and jabbing little
> dicky
> > > right thru the heart with this post… He will come back with
> the
> > > rath of a nerd in heat! You have overloaded him with so much
truth
> > > here that he'll be hyperventilating while he rabidly types
> his "just
> > > setting the record straight" neurotic reply. I LOVE IT!!
> >
> > I see you couldn't come up with anything to counter my obvious
> > truths. Just repeating your old weak responses does nothing but
> make
> > you look foolish. How sweet it is …
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > OK, now onto his neurosis!
> >
> > I'll leave the TRUTH here for another round. Once again you have
> > nothing but hollow words we've all heard before, while I provide
> the
> > obvious truth for all to see. How sweet it is …
> >
> > >
> > > — In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@>
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ahhh, the shill is back. Let's see what words of wisdom he
has
> to
> > > > offer this time …
> > > >
> > > > — In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "optdouble" <mworcester@>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Since we seem to be on the subject, let's examine the REAL
> CONs
> > > > > about 'Full-Time' Video Poker players:
> > > >
> > > > Could the lies be far behind?
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. Casinos convincing VP players that using the slot club
> card
> > > and
> > > > > playing for special double points or whatever while losing
> your
> > > > money
> > > > > on VP is a good move because you are getting comps for free
> > > rooms,
> > > > > meals, shows, etc. - They do this one real well - I can
> think
> > > of
> > > > no
> > > > > other way they could get people to willingly spend $500 for
a
> > > lunch
> > > > > buffet or $2000 for a couple nights of free hotel rooms.
> > > >
> > > > Actually, the business of points and promotions is due to
> > > competition
> > > > with other casinos for your gambling dollar. How gamblers use
> or
> > > > abuse these benefits has nothing to do with the strategy they
> > play.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 2. VP players thinking they will reach the "long term" and
> > > > actually
> > > > > make money on the effort by playing the same denomination
for
> > as
> > > > many
> > > > > hands as possible.
> > > >
> > > > There is no such thing as the long term. There are ONLY
> > > probabilities
> > > > over time. The only possible CON is to deny this proven
> > > MATHEMATICAL
> > > > FACT. This is a typical Singer ploy. Deny proven fact and
watch
> > the
> > > > suckers bite.
> > > >
> > > > > It doesn't take much time playing standard VP
> > > > > games like FPDW or JOB to figure out that the basic money
> flow
> > > > > situation is that of losing money on a "97%" game whilst
> > waiting
> > > > for
> > > > > a Royal Flush that is supposed to come every 40,000 to
70,000
> > > hands
> > > > > depending on the game.
> > > >
> > > > Did you have a point? PS. With FPDW it's 99%.
> > > >
> > > > > Quiz question - how many hands would it take
> > > > > before you would even know if something was amiss with the
> > Royal
> > > > > Flush probability ( maybe 30 cycles = 1.5 to 2 million
> > hands ).
> > > > Who
> > > > > wants to bet 2 million hands only to find out at the end of
> it,
> > > > that
> > > > > the machines didn't really work the way you thought they
> > would???
> > > >
> > > > Do you have a choice? Nope. There is no free lunch. You want
to
> > > play
> > > > VP, you play the machines. Your results will average out over
> > time
> > > to
> > > > your accuracy on the games you play. There is nothing in AP
> that
> > > > requires anyone to play millions of hands. That is one of
> > Singer's
> > > > lies.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Even Deuces Wild depends on waiting for the Royal Flush as
> well
> > > as
> > > > > the Four Deuces, and you are playing a "95%" game in the
> > > meantime.
> > > >
> > > > Still waiting for that point …
> > > >
> > > > > Even assuming that the jackpot hands arrive on schedule,
you
> > are
> > > > > basically playing a game of musical chairs where you hand
the
> > > > casinos
> > > > > your money and hope that the music doesn't stop before you
> get
> > > the
> > > > > Royal Flush or 4 Deuces to get some of your money back.
> > > >
> > > > Or … some people actually get these hands better than
> expected.
> > > It
> > > > works both ways. Anyone who ONLY points out the negative
> > > > possibilities is not to be trusted.
> > > >
> > > > > Imagine
> > > > > what would happen if suddenly all of the 100%+ games were
> > changed
> > > > to
> > > > > negative games overnight from the casinos - so much
> > > for 'Advantage
> > > > > Play' for anybody that is 'behind' on the Royal Flush cycle
> at
> > > that
> > > > > point.
> > > >
> > > > And, what if an asteriod crashes into your house. The odds of
> the
> > > > latter are probably better. Or, what if the stock market
> crashed
> > > > again? Do I need to go on?
> > > >
> > > > > Or what if you are just not that lucky with Royal Flushes
> > > > > for whatever reason? Guess you just spent thousands of
> hours
> > > > > banging on VP machine buttons for nothing.
> > > >
> > > > And, what if you are lucky at the RFs? Are you going
somewhere
> > with
> > > > this or are you really just a nonstop pessimist?
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 3. Why do some of the 'Advantage Play' teachers openly
> admit
> > to
> > > > > losing tens of thousands of dollars at times ( -$30,000 is
> > > > mentioned
> > > > > at one place even for durations approaching 1 year while
> > playing
> > > > > every day ), but people still think this is an 'easy way'
to
> > make
> > > > > money?
> > > >
> > > > No one said it was an easy way to make money. This is the
kind
> of
> > > > statement that Singer attributes to the gurus, but it's just
> > > another
> > > > lie. How could Rob sell his CON without lying about the facts?
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 4. The remedy for poor results in 'Advantage Play' is BUY
> MY
> > > > > BOOK/SOFTWARE/SEMINAR, MORE HANDS, MULTI-PLAY, MORE COIN-
IN,
> > JUST
> > > > > BELIEVE IN THE LONG TERM, and FASTER SPEED.
> > > >
> > > > No, another statement Singer attributes to the gurus … and
> > > another
> > > > lie. Don't you ever cross reference your facts?
> > > >
> > > > > Gee, wonder who
> > > > > benefits from that one? Think this might lead to an
> > ADDICTION
> > > > > anyone?
> > > >
> > > > No, addicition has already been covered here. Did you miss
the
> > part
> > > > about most victims being genetically predisposed? If you want
> to
> > > > avoid the potential for addiction then you should be
preaching
> > > > complete abstinence … is that what you are doing?
> > > >
> > > > > One of the common definitions of insanity is to keep doing
> > > > > the same thing expecting different results. Most people
> would
> > > > make
> > > > > more working at McDonald's or Wal-Mart per hour than with
> > > > > supposed 'Advantage VP Play', and there is no risk of
losing
> > > > $30,000
> > > > > in the effort.
> > > >
> > > > Do you have a point? None of the gurus, or anyone else, is
> trying
> > > to
> > > > convince anyone to start gambling. People have ALREADY made
> that
> > > > choice. AP simply gives them a way to lose less or win. It's
> > really
> > > > quite simple.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 5. Even if someone is making money using 'Advantage
Play',
> > does
> > > > > anyone really think it is an intelligent use of your time
to
> > sit
> > > > for
> > > > > 8-12 hours per day at a VP machine staring at a computer
> > screen,
> > > >
> > > > Now, this is completely Singerist. No one has to play 8-12
> hours
> > a
> > > > day to be an APer. You asserted a lie and I bet you will
follow
> > it
> > > > with nonsense based on that lie…
> > > >
> > > > > punching buttons as fast as possible (carpal tunnel,
> anyone?),
> > > > > inhaling tons of second-hand smoke, eating non-healthy food
> or
> > > even
> > > > > skipping meals, listening to loud music, dodging drunks,
> > > druggies,
> > > > > con artists, whores, cranky Alzheimer-affected retiree
> > gamblers,
> > > > and
> > > > > drifters, just so you might make $20-30 per hour even if
> > > everything
> > > > > goes PERFECTLY?
> > > >
> > > > Just as I called. PS. People do all these things anyway when
> they
> > > > gamble. It has nothing to do with AP.
> > > >
> > > > > Shoot, I'd rather be a truck driver than do that.
> > > >
> > > > What's stopping you? Just make sure you don't stop along the
> way
> > > and
> > > > eat any unhealthy food, or skip any meals or … you get the
> > > picture.
> > > >
> > > > > 6. People thinking they will 'get rich' by moving to Las
> > Vegas
> > > > just
> > > > > to play the VP machines.
> > > >
> > > > Who? Name one. I know many recreational gamblers and they
NEVER
> > > > thought they'd get rich playing VP.
> > > >
> > > > > Imagine, buying overpriced housing in a
> > > > > bubble market ( another GREATER FOOL THEORY ), located in
the
> > > > > cesspool of morality on the idea that you will
someday 'beat'
> > the
> > > > > casinos 'long term' and there will be no significant risk,
> > > negative
> > > > > consequences, family impact, or addiction issues.
> > > >
> > > > Hmmmm. Where have we heard these words before? However, it
> still
> > > has
> > > > nothing to do with AP. The vast majority of people that come
to
> > LV
> > > > don't even play VP.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > So, tell me who is the idiot - the person believing this
long-
> > > > > term 'Advantage Player VP' hook, or the person that uses
FREE
> > > > > STRATEGIES provided on a website to maximize their chances
of
> > > > > profiting in one of more SHORT-TERM SESSIONS as an
occasional
> > > part-
> > > > > time entertainment???
> > > >
> > > > If the latter were possible it would be nice. However, this
is
> > just
> > > a
> > > > fairy tale. You either gamble or you don't. The pluses and
> > minuses
> > > of
> > > > casino play are the same no matter what system you use. If
> anyone
> > > > wants to minimize the time the play … then do it. If they
> want
> > to
> > > > play short sessions … then do it (I do). Just don't think
> that
> > > any
> > > > of this changes the underlying mathematical principles. Your
> > > results
> > > > WILL approach the mathematical average of the games you play
> and
> > > the
> > > > way you play … OVER TIME.
> > > >
> > >
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