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The Montana Play

I'm curious, Mickey. What in the world took you to Montana to discover
such a play in the first place? Given the plays that still existed in Las
Vegas and Laughlin at that time, it seems odd to go all the way to Montana
seeking an edge.

In a message dated 5/11/2009 1:48:04 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
mickeycrimm@yahoo.com writes:

Correction: There were 5000 machines with the game on it, not 500. But I
found the mistake on only a couple dozen.

— In _FREEvpFREE@yahoogroFREEvpF_ (mailto:FREEvpF…@…com) ,
"mickeycrimm" <mickeycrimm@mic> wrote:

Since no one else will post any strategy up here, I gues I will.

Richard, this is the game I played for a year and a half.

The game is called Jackpot Aces. It's a Joker game. This is what the

payscale looked like:

Five Aces........ Five Aces..
RF.......... RF.. RF.
5K.......... 5K.. 5K.
4 Natural Aces........ 4 Natural Aces........<WBR>.
JR.......... JR.. JR.
Naural Aces Full........ Naural Aces Full........<W
SF.......... SF.. SF.
4K.......... 4K.. 4K.
FH.......... FH.. FH
FL.......... FL.. FL
ST.......... ST.. ST
3K.......... 3K.. 3K
2P.......... 2P.. 2P

This is the payback percentage for each hand:

Five Aces........ Five Aces........
Royal Flush....... Royal Flush.
Five of a Kind........ Five of
Joker Royal....... Joker Royal.....
Four Natural Aces........ 5.00% with 1% progressive meter
Straight Flush....... Straight
Natural Aces Full........ 20.61% with 1% progressive meter
Four of a Kind........ Four of a
Full House....... Full House.......
Flush....... Flush... Flush.....
Straight.... Stra Straig
Three of a Kind........ Three of
Two Pair........ Two Pair........<WB

This game has a theoretical of 112.5% plus 2% worth of meters for a

total of 114.5%. I could only bet 50 cents per hand on this play. That's right,
50 cents per hand. But at 1000 hands per hour it has an hourly rate of
$72. And I was running only $500 per hour in action.

Why would a casino put in a game like this. Well they didn't do it on

purpose. There are about 500 machines in Montana with this game on it. I
found a "technicians error" on a couple dozen machines around Montana. The Aces
Full Meter was not supposed to start at 200 for one. It was supposed to
start at 20 for one--which would put the game in the low nineties
percentagewise.

Lucky for me none of the video poker players up here knew what a big

mistake it was. It's just not possible for even a novice to lose money on this
play in the long term, because it's not possible for them to make over
14.5% worth of mistakes.

You could take the Five Aces, Royal Flush, Five of a Kind, and the Joker

Royal clean off the payscale and it's still a 7% edge. Only a blind video
poker player could lose on this play.

The slot techs followed me all aruond the State of Montana correcting

their boo boo's. But only after I slaughtered all the casinos involved. It
took them a year and a half to find all the machines involved.

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