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Taxes on Poker,etc

In a message dated 9/9/2007 2:41:17 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
mickeycrimm@yahoo.com writes:

And there are no graduating tax brackets for gambling win. It's a
straight 28% on the net win. So if you net $100,000 you owe $28,000,
if you net $10,000 you owe $2800. This is what makes it so hard on
full time gamblers. In any other occupation a person who makes only
$10,000 isn't gonna pay any taxes.

You can write of your losses or you can take your standard
deduction/personal exemption but you can't do both.

That info is incorrect. Your winnings are added to your other income and
you pay at whatever tax rate you are subject to. If someone was married and
won $10,000 and had no other income, they would owe no tax. If you don't
qualify for professional gambling status, you need to itemize to claim any losses.
That will eliminate the standard deduction but you are still entitled to
personal exemption(s) subject to income limitation phaseouts. Depending on
your income, you might be subject to the alternative minimum tax. Gambling
winnings added to other income can have major unforseen consequences including
having some of your social security benefits being taxable, increasing the cost
of your Medicare premiums (now based on income), loss of certain itemized
deductions, etc. State tax issues are considerably more complicated. Table
players have always been subject to reporting wins and losses on a session
basis. That hasn't changed.

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In a message dated 9/9/2007 2:41:17 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
mickeycrimm@... writes:

And there are no graduating tax brackets for gambling win. It's a
straight 28% on the net win. So if you net $100,000 you owe

$28,000,

if you net $10,000 you owe $2800. This is what makes it so hard on
full time gamblers. In any other occupation a person who makes

only

$10,000 isn't gonna pay any taxes.

You can write of your losses or you can take your standard
deduction/personal exemption but you can't do both.

That info is incorrect. Your winnings are added to your other

income and

you pay at whatever tax rate you are subject to. If someone was

married and

won $10,000 and had no other income, they would owe no tax. If

you don't

qualify for professional gambling status, you need to itemize to

claim any losses.

That will eliminate the standard deduction but you are still

entitled to

personal exemption(s) subject to income limitation phaseouts.

Depending on

your income, you might be subject to the alternative minimum tax.

Gambling

winnings added to other income can have major unforseen

consequences including

having some of your social security benefits being taxable,

increasing the cost

of your Medicare premiums (now based on income), loss of certain

itemized

deductions, etc. State tax issues are considerably more

complicated. Table

players have always been subject to reporting wins and losses on a

session

basis. That hasn't changed.

I don't think anyone should be taking tax advice from me. I don't
even take it myself. I record winning sessions and losing sessions
and pay to have the rest done. I'm guessing I have some wrong
assumptions. Perhaps I'll give myself a clinc when Jean's new book
hits the shelf.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, vp1040@... wrote:

Very well presented and correctly stated to answer any
questions on tax ability of gambling winnings. Retired
persons are unfairly taxed on gambling winnings and
have very little chance of playing any positive Vp
games to their advantage.
Vet.

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--- mickeycrimm <mickeycrimm@yahoo.com> wrote:

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, vp1040@... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 9/9/2007 2:41:17 A.M. Eastern
Daylight Time,
> mickeycrimm@... writes:
>
> And there are no graduating tax brackets for
gambling win. It's a
> straight 28% on the net win. So if you net
$100,000 you owe
$28,000,
> if you net $10,000 you owe $2800. This is what
makes it so hard on
> full time gamblers. In any other occupation a
person who makes
only
> $10,000 isn't gonna pay any taxes.
>
> You can write of your losses or you can take your
standard
> deduction/personal exemption but you can't do
both.
>
>
> That info is incorrect. Your winnings are added
to your other
income and
> you pay at whatever tax rate you are subject to.
If someone was
married and
> won $10,000 and had no other income, they would
owe no tax. If
you don't
> qualify for professional gambling status, you need
to itemize to
claim any losses.
> That will eliminate the standard deduction but
you are still
entitled to
> personal exemption(s) subject to income limitation
phaseouts.
Depending on
> your income, you might be subject to the
alternative minimum tax.
Gambling
> winnings added to other income can have major
unforseen
consequences including
> having some of your social security benefits being
taxable,
increasing the cost
> of your Medicare premiums (now based on income),
loss of certain
itemized
> deductions, etc. State tax issues are
considerably more
complicated. Table
> players have always been subject to reporting
wins and losses on a
session
> basis. That hasn't changed.
>
>
>
>

I don't think anyone should be taking tax advice
from me. I don't
even take it myself. I record winning sessions and
losing sessions
and pay to have the rest done. I'm guessing I have
some wrong
assumptions. Perhaps I'll give myself a clinc when
Jean's new book
hits the shelf.

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Would you be able to point me to things more specific about these two statements?

I might be soon numbered among their ranks, but maybe not. LOL!

Thanks.

..... bl

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, vet <vet611@...> wrote:

Retired
persons are unfairly taxed on gambling winnings and
have very little chance of playing any positive Vp
games to their advantage.
Vet.

Please read the previous posting by Mikey Crimm who
covered this issue very well. I was referring to his
posting on my comment.
Vet

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--- bornloser1537 <bornloser1537@yahoo.com> wrote:

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, vet <vet611@...>
wrote:
>
> Retired
> persons are unfairly taxed on gambling winnings
and
> have very little chance of playing any positive Vp
> games to their advantage.
> Vet.

Would you be able to point me to things more
specific about these two statements?

I might be soon numbered among their ranks, but
maybe not. LOL!

Thanks.

..... bl

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Very well presented and correctly stated to answer any
questions on tax ability of gambling winnings. Retired
persons are unfairly taxed on gambling winnings

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, vet <vet611@...> wrote:
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How?
Aint all of us?

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and

have very little chance of playing any positive Vp
games to their advantage.
Vet.

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Excuse me but has somebody 2 years away from retirement I play
positive VP often & play it pretty well now, Why would that change ?
I dont plan to be any dumber. ; )

M J