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Taking machines out of service

Rick & Lucky Lucy wrote: "Sometimes, not often, we ask for machines to be
reserved for half hour or so while we grab a bite to eat (Harrah's). It is
a perk for obtaining Diamond status, i.e., loosing a lot of money."

Tom & I do the same on occassion, not very often. Not too often we get a
machine that's so hot we want to come back to it lol. But we have played for
hours on a machine that was doing OK and asked they be shut down while we
have dinner. We never take advantage of it & are never gone more than an
hour or so. We do this in AC & LV and have seen others do it as well.

Liz

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  Rick & Lucky Lucy wrote: "Sometimes, not often, we ask for

machines to be

reserved for half hour or so while we grab a bite to eat

(Harrah's). It is

a perk for obtaining Diamond status, i.e., loosing a lot of money."

Tom & I do the same on occassion, not very often. Not too often we

get a

machine that's so hot we want to come back to it lol. But we have

played for

hours on a machine that was doing OK and asked they be shut down

while we

have dinner. We never take advantage of it & are never gone more

than an

hour or so. We do this in AC & LV and have seen others do it as

well.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Elizabeth" <mslizrn@d...> wrote:

Liz

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I agree with you both. My husband & I do this on the rare occasion
that we are (usually futilely) chasing a big prog. We take 30-45
minute meal breaks, when we feel we must get some nourishment. On a
5-10 minute restroom break, if we are both there, we play the
other's machine, along with our own, for that brief period of time.
Apparently, this causes some posters on this forum, to conclude that
because of this, we are "nasty", getting "unwarrented"
comps, "spoiling other vp player's fun", should possibly be
trespassed, and are "bad for the casinos bottom line"?? I think
shuttng down a machine, for a short period of time, is a common
occurance in every casino in the USA. Of course, if some player
does it constantly, or exceeds the time limit imposed by the casino
employee, the request should be denied or the machine should be
released to anyone who wishes to play it. Otherwise, if one does not
take undue advantage of the situation, I think this option is fair
and equitable, and should be available upon reasonable request.

   Babe

jackessiebabe wrote:

I agree with you both. My husband & I do this on the rare occasion
that we are (usually futilely) chasing a big prog. We take 30-45
minute meal breaks, when we feel we must get some nourishment. On a
5-10 minute restroom break, if we are both there, we play the
other's machine, along with our own, for that brief period of time.
Apparently, this causes some posters on this forum, to conclude that
because of this, we are "nasty", getting "unwarrented"
comps, "spoiling other vp player's fun", should possibly be
trespassed, and are "bad for the casinos bottom line"??

Babe,

I don't think that the aspersions cast here on players who shut down
machines were intended to apply to players such as yourself, who
responsibly exercise the privilege and accord it the respect that's due.

They're reserved for players who, by taking advantage of excessive
shutdowns, show absolutely no consideration for other players. It's
not unusual to see such players holding one or more machines for
excessive amounts of time between shutdowns for friends/spouses when
the machines are supposedly "up", and in many other respects exhibit
behavior can only be deemed rude and ignorant (to make a mild call).

I've encountered incidents such as this disproportionately at
Harrah's, where a Diamond card apparently is a passport to obnoxious
behavior. The attendents won't challenge even the most egregious
absuses of the privilege (such as shutting a machine down for 2 hours,
playing it very lightly over a couple of hours, and then asking for
another 2 hour shut down).

Now, I'll admit to being frustrated when there's a strong machine
that's not available because of very extended play by one or more
players. However, so long as they actively play it and don't take
unreasonable breaks I fully acknowledge that they're in the right.

- Harry

I think there's a big difference between shutting down a machine for
a quick meal break, and shutting one down for almost two hours which
I have seen done at MSS on numerous occasions. the funny thing is one
time a couple shut the machines down, when they came back they only
stayed about 20 minutes then left. I kind of equate it to polite
smokers (I am one) and not polite smokers in a casino.

Also, what about the woman at MSS who I saw place coin cups on two of
the FPDW machines and proceeded to play the third one? I observed her
doing this for over an hour. She just simply moved from machine to
machine and whichever one she wasn't playing she "saved" with coin
cups.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "jackessiebabe" <jackessiebabe@y...>
wrote:

>
> Rick & Lucky Lucy wrote: "Sometimes, not often, we ask for
machines to be
> reserved for half hour or so while we grab a bite to eat
(Harrah's). It is
> a perk for obtaining Diamond status, i.e., loosing a lot of

money."

>
> Tom & I do the same on occassion, not very often. Not too often

we

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Elizabeth" <mslizrn@d...> wrote:
get a
> machine that's so hot we want to come back to it lol. But we have
played for
> hours on a machine that was doing OK and asked they be shut down
while we
> have dinner. We never take advantage of it & are never gone more
than an
> hour or so. We do this in AC & LV and have seen others do it as
well.
>
> Liz
>

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I agree with you both. My husband & I do this on the rare occasion
that we are (usually futilely) chasing a big prog. We take 30-45
minute meal breaks, when we feel we must get some nourishment. On a
5-10 minute restroom break, if we are both there, we play the
other's machine, along with our own, for that brief period of time.
Apparently, this causes some posters on this forum, to conclude

that

because of this, we are "nasty", getting "unwarrented"
comps, "spoiling other vp player's fun", should possibly be
trespassed, and are "bad for the casinos bottom line"?? I think
shuttng down a machine, for a short period of time, is a common
occurance in every casino in the USA. Of course, if some player
does it constantly, or exceeds the time limit imposed by the casino
employee, the request should be denied or the machine should be
released to anyone who wishes to play it. Otherwise, if one does

not

take undue advantage of the situation, I think this option is fair
and equitable, and should be available upon reasonable request.

   Babe

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Harry Porter" <harry.porter@v...>
wrote:

Babe,

I don't think that the aspersions cast here on players who shut

down

machines were intended to apply to players such as yourself, who
responsibly exercise the privilege and accord it the respect

that's due.

They're reserved for players who, by taking advantage of excessive
shutdowns, show absolutely no consideration for other players.

It's

not unusual to see such players holding one or more machines for
excessive amounts of time between shutdowns for friends/spouses

when

the machines are supposedly "up", and in many other respects

exhibit

behavior can only be deemed rude and ignorant (to make a mild

call).

I've encountered incidents such as this disproportionately at
Harrah's, where a Diamond card apparently is a passport to

obnoxious

behavior. The attendents won't challenge even the most egregious
absuses of the privilege (such as shutting a machine down for 2

hours,

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playing it very lightly over a couple of hours, and then asking for
another 2 hour shut down).

Now, I'll admit to being frustrated when there's a strong machine
that's not available because of very extended play by one or more
players. However, so long as they actively play it and don't take
unreasonable breaks I fully acknowledge that they're in the right.

- Harry

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Harry,

Thanks for your reasonable & enlightened (as usual) response.

I too, have encountered machine hogs, who grab machines on both
sides of the one they're playing, drop 1 coin in each, and commence
playing only the middle machine, for hours on end. I have never
understood such abysmally rude behavior. I also would not think of
approaching these people, as most of them appear to be desperate
enough to verbally or perhaps, even physically, attack anyone who
would think of questioning their right to tie up every machine
within reach. Some even stand-up so that they can "lock-up" 4
machines!

I try to avoid Harrahs, in any jurisdiction. They NEVER give VP
players a square deal. I used to play at Harrahs/Lake Tahoe,
because my husband & I both love Lake Hahoe in the summertime. A
few years ago thay had FPDW on their M/G machines near the front
entrance and also near the elevators. Two or three years ago, while
we were there, they changed the computer chips during the wee hours,
and the next morning, NSUD appeared instead. We'd like to think WE
weren't responsible because we both hit the Deuces the night before,
but who knows. Maybe the magnificent combined $500 we won was too
much for Harrah's bottom line. We left that day for the Pepp, in
Reno, where they did have FPDW & FPJW, at that time. Sadly, that's
no more either. Anyway, that is the ONLY Harrahs I've been in that
actually had FP machines.

For all your intelligent and thoughtful posts, I commend you and
wish you bunches of Royals!

Babe

I think there's a big difference between shutting down a machine

for

a quick meal break, and shutting one down for almost two hours

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Also, what about the woman at MSS who I saw place coin cups on two

of

the FPDW machines and proceeded to play the third one? I observed

her

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "eharas" <eharas@o...> wrote:

doing this for over an hour. She just simply moved from machine to
machine and whichever one she wasn't playing she "saved" with coin
cups.

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As I said, in my previous email to Harry, I think this is rude,
arrogant and totally unacceptable behavior, and should not be
permitted or condoned by the casino. If this occured frequently,
was called to the attention of casino management, and nothing was
done to correct it, I'd show my displeasure by playing elsewhere.

Babe