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Tahoe bests

For .25 player at Harrah's /Harvey's Tahoe best play IMO is the 8-5 progs
located at Harrahs elevator, Harveys S. US 50 main doors by Mtn Bar. Our
approach is to cash rewards for all nicks possible looking for the RF of
best prog. Red marked coupons are doubled Tue- Thur. We spend a bit of
time in Horizon, always generates a $25-50 offer for next visit for both of
us. She plays own card there but not necessary with joint
acctsHarvey/Harrahs where we stay, as Harrah's std rooms are best in N.
Nevada. Horizon always includes a $5/10 table offer we use with their $.
Anytime we've tried free rooms at Horizon for son, guests, we've had more
trouble than needed. Like no one's ever done that before, while in a hurry
to check out, get back to Reno. Far as Caesar's, haven't even been it there
in about 2 years. Some do like it, tho. CD

To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 11/9/2003 5:20:48 AM
Subject: [vpFREE] Digest Number 1204

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Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Perversity
           From: krallison416@aol.com
      2. RE: Perversity
           From: "Scot Krause" <krauseinvegas@worldnet.att.net>
      3. Re: Equivalent Games
           From: "Harry Porter" <harry.porter@verizon.net>

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Message: 1
   Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 03:10:09 EST
   From: krallison416@aol.com
Subject: Re: Perversity

In a message dated 11/8/03 10:24:18 PM Pacific Standard Time,
artcontrol@cox.net writes:
(2) We are getting mailings from the Silverton every few
days lately.
I suddenly am getting a huge upswing in mailings from them too - not to

me

(I've never been there) but because two owners ago, my house was owned by

people

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who played there.

Karen

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Message: 2
   Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 00:49:01 -0800
   From: "Scot Krause" <krauseinvegas@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: RE: Perversity

Silverton has a new Marketing Director (and staff) who was formerly with
Icahn and before that with Stations.

Scot

-----Original Message-----
From: krallison416@aol.com [mailto:krallison…@…com]
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 12:10 AM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Perversity

In a message dated 11/8/03 10:24:18 PM Pacific Standard Time,
artcontrol@cox.net writes:
(2) We are getting mailings from the Silverton every few
days lately.
I suddenly am getting a huge upswing in mailings from them too - not to
me
(I've never been there) but because two owners ago, my house was owned
by people
who played there.

Karen

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Message: 3
   Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 09:38:38 -0000
   From: "Harry Porter" <harry.porter@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Equivalent Games

Steve,

Handicapped by a "short attention span" 4am mind, I'm sure I'll digest
your article more fully later. There is one part at this time that's
a little troubling, but one which I gather you expect to be a
stumbling block:

> Now think
> about what is happening here -- the spinner does nothing more than
> select how often the player "tries" for a specific payoff, but
> "trying" entails nothing more than flipping the same biased coin
> over and over. The actual fluctuations in the players bankroll
> are controlled completely by the dynamics of the biased coin (plus
> the frequency of pushes, which is the same for both games). The
> spinner is nothing more than an amusing diversion between sessions
> of coin flips. So, the complex probabilities associated with a VP
> game can be reduced to the simplicity of a single biased coin!

Isn't the frequency with which a player tries for a specific payoff,
which in this game is determined by the spinner, an integral part of
the expected fluctuations in the players bankroll?

It seems to me that the spinner is closely analogous to a player's
strategy in vp since both determine expected distribution of wins. To
dispense with it, if I understand your statements correctly, would be
the equivalent of disregarding player strategy in determining bankroll
requirements.

Trust me when I say that I fully expect I'm overlooking the obvious in
your article and I'll give it another read later today. However,
maybe you could shortcut my headscratching a little and point me to
the section that I might want to most carefully mull over.

- Harry

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