I am wondering whether swiping your players card for free parking “triggers” a “day” in your casino records even if you don’t do any play that day. That might negatively affect your daily average? Has anyone personally tracked this?
Swiping players card for free parking
It’s going to depend on the system that the casino uses. I know that there are some casinos that don’t count any use of your card that is not in a gaming device as a trigger for a play day, and of course there are some that count any use of your card as triggering a play day.
All you can do is ask your host or ask at the player’s club desk and hope you get an honest and well informed answer, or check with frequent players at the establishment and maybe find out that way.
Regards
A.P.
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On Tuesday, February 19, 2019, 3:15:47 p.m. EST, queenofco…@…net [vpFREE] <vpF…@…com> wrote:
I am wondering whether swiping your players card for free parking “triggers” a “day” in your casino records even if you don’t do any play that day. That might negatively affect your daily average? Has anyone personally tracked this?
Jean $¢ott - The Frugal Gambler
Obviously I have researched and written about this issue for years so I know how hard it is to get firm info about “daily average.” Asking at the players club is hopeless and even the hosts often don’t know marketing secrets. That is why I was asking here for information from players who might have PERSONALLY stumbled on some details at some specific properties. So much of marketing is now big-data driven, that I’m of the opinion that perhaps this is information impossible to get.
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On February 19, 2019 at 5:55 PM “Albert Pearson eh…@…com [vpFREE]” <vpF…@…com> wrote:
It’s going to depend on the system that the casino uses. I know that there are some casinos that don’t count any use of your card that is not in a gaming device as a trigger for a play day, and of course there are some that count any use of your card as triggering a play day.
All you can do is ask your host or ask at the player’s club desk and hope you get an honest and well informed answer, or check with frequent players at the establishment and maybe find out that way.
Regards
A.P.
On Tuesday, February 19, 2019, 3:15:47 p.m. EST, queenofco…@…net [vpFREE] <vpF…@…com> wrote:
I am wondering whether swiping your players card for free parking “triggers” a “day” in your casino records even if you don’t do any play that day. That might negatively affect your daily average? Has anyone personally tracked this?
Jean $¢ott - The Frugal Gambler
FWIW, “anecdotally” I haven’t heard of any suggestion that parking trips you at most casinos. This would be, of course, fortunate, since on an overnight stay most informed players try to avoid any activity that might “trip” them on a checkout day (in absence of any intended play).
I’m hopeful (some say, naively ) that casinos recognize where it might be desirable not to disincentivize players by tripping certain ancillary activities.
On a related note, specific with respect to Harrah’s properties, Diamond Clubs were once a “save haven” when it came to use on a non-play day. Over the last couple of years, that’s seems no longer the case (again, relying on word of month, Caesars now charges an internal “player profitability” account upon each visit, triggering a “trip”).
—In vpF…@…com, <queenofcomps@…> wrote :
Obviously I have researched and written about this issue for years so I know how hard it is to get firm info about “daily average.” Asking at the players club is hopeless and even the hosts often don’t know marketing secrets. That is why I was asking here for information from players who might have PERSONALLY stumbled on some details at some specific properties. So much of marketing is now big-data driven, that I’m of the opinion that perhaps this is information impossible to get.
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On February 19, 2019 at 5:55 PM “Albert Pearson ehpee@… [vpFREE]” <vpF…@…com> wrote:
It’s going to depend on the system that the casino uses. I know that there are some casinos that don’t count any use of your card that is not in a gaming device as a trigger for a play day, and of course there are some that count any use of your card as triggering a play day.
All you can do is ask your host or ask at the player’s club desk and hope you get an honest and well informed answer, or check with frequent players at the establishment and maybe find out that way.
Regards
A.P.
On Tuesday, February 19, 2019, 3:15:47 p.m. EST, queenofcomps@… [vpFREE] <vpF…@…com> wrote:
I am wondering whether swiping your players card for free parking “triggers” a “day” in your casino records even if you don’t do any play that day. That might negatively affect your daily average? Has anyone personally tracked this?
Jean $¢ott - The Frugal Gambler
Harry wrote: "I’m hopeful (some say, naively ) that casinos recognize where it might be desirable not to disincentivize players by tripping certain ancillary activities. "
Harry, you - and many of us “old-timers” - are probably guilty - not of being naïve - but just not fully understanding the major role big data plays in determining how casinos work these days. One has to assume, without having specific knowledge otherwise, that anytime you use or show your players card, that bit of information goes into that giant big-data mixer.
I may be a little more informed about this subject than most players. Because of my constant need for blog fodder, I read a lot of material - articles, newsletters, etc. - written for the casino side of the business as opposed to the customer side. The talk there is constantly about data gathering and analyzing. At this time it seems there is a wide variance in how casinos are using this data. Experts are often offering their services to casinos that are gathering all this data but not knowing how to maximize its use in their marketing programs. However, enough casinos are using this data mining to some extent, that it makes it impossible in most cases for even us experienced gamblers to “figure out” the marketing system so we can maximize its benefits! Educated guessing at marketing factors is no longer a viable technique like it was in the “good ol’ days.”
Jean Scott