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I know of several people who have filed complaints against casinos with
Nevada Gaming Control. In most cases, GC does not reveal the identity of the
complainants to the casino. Therefore, the complaint filers are usually not barred,
as they are not identified. I think in the case of a lawsuit, the bringers of
the suit would be identified, and therefore could be barred.

Brian

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In a message dated 6/23/2004 9:56:45 PM Pacific Standard Time,
billvelek@alltel.net writes:
And you somehow think that the casinos which would ban you for filing a
suit will still welcome you with open arms for filing a complaint with
the gaming control board? ... unless there are laws which protect you
as a whistleblower.

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#2

I once reported to Gaming Control drawing irregularities at a Vegas local casino. They told a casino executive my name in the process of their investigation. He told a lot of employees, who told a lot of "favorite" customers, who were really mad because they were the ones who were benefiting from special treatment in these drawings. We were afraid, for a little while, that we would come out of the casino to slashed tires - because that had been done in the past.

I complained to Gaming Control about revealing my name - they wiggled out of it by saying I hadn't told them to keep my name confidential. I said I thought that privacy would be an obvious routine policy.

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#3

bjaygold@aol.com wrote:

I know of several people who have filed complaints against casinos with
Nevada Gaming Control. In most cases, GC does not reveal the identity of the
complainants to the casino. Therefore, the complaint filers are usually not barred,
as they are not identified. I think in the case of a lawsuit, the bringers of
the suit would be identified, and therefore could be barred.

Well, I can't speak about Nevada law because I'm not licensed there, but let me at least say that I see two possible reasons why the information would have to be released if this were go occur in Arkansas, and in many other states, and therefore _probably_ in Nevada, as well.

First, it would be a pretty good guess that Nevada Gaming Control is an extension of the government, rather than some sort of a private organization (such as the Arkansas Bar Association which is NOT part of the government despite use of "Arkansas" in its name). Anyway, if the Nevada Gaming Control is in fact part of state government, which I suppose it is, and _if_ Nevada has a "Freedom of Information Act" like most other states have, then unless there is a specific exclusion for reports to Gaming Control, release of the information upon request is most probably required ... and a crime to withhold it.

Second, and once again assuming that Nevada Gaming Control is a part of state government, if they were to attempt to use the information in any sort of a proceeding to fine the Casino, or to suspend or revoke its license, then there is probably a guarantee in the state Constitution that entitles an accused -- and yes, that includes corporations -- to confront any witnesses. Not to mention that fact that even if the complaining party were to not actually be called as a witness, it will most likely still be subject to discovery by the casino in preparing its defense if there is a record of the complaint anywhere in the file.

I understand the need to protect whistleblowers, but I also can imagine disgruntled folks making false complaints, too. That's why most places have this little thing called "due process".

Cheers.

Bill Velek