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Super Times

I beleive I have the name corret. There is a multiplier from 2 to
10 that randomly appears if you bet 6 coins on each hand. I believe
the game is only associated with multi play machines.

    Is this a good game and is there anyway of analyzing it with the
current software? In JoB a pair of dealt Jacks (3 game version)
obviously returns you 15 coins, but you are now down 3 (assumming
nothing was added to you hands on the draw). You are down 3 coins
because you had to bet 18 to be eligible for the possible multiplier
(between 2 and 10) that that randomy appears and helps winning hands.

    I am looking forward to your opinions on this game.
Thanks, Bob

The WIzard of Odds and SKip Hughes have already analyzed the game and have
come up with the conclusion that you add .28 the the Basic EV of the game.
The best version I know of is the 9/6 jacks at Caesars in Vegas. Most of the
Super Times Pay machines that I've come across have really bad pay schedules
and the +.28 don't help much.

regards...Tom

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From: "futrend" <futrend@yahoo.com>
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 12:22 AM
Subject: [vpFREE] Super Times

   I beleive I have the name corret. There is a multiplier from 2 to
10 that randomly appears if you bet 6 coins on each hand. I believe
the game is only associated with multi play machines.

    Is this a good game and is there anyway of analyzing it with the
current software? In JoB a pair of dealt Jacks (3 game version)
obviously returns you 15 coins, but you are now down 3 (assumming
nothing was added to you hands on the draw). You are down 3 coins
because you had to bet 18 to be eligible for the possible multiplier
(between 2 and 10) that that randomy appears and helps winning hands.

    I am looking forward to your opinions on this game.
Thanks, Bob

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you add .28 the the Basic EV of the game.

See <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vpFREE/message/34937>

From the vpFREE Glossary:

SXP - Super Times Pay. STP increases a game's ER by 0.278%.

.28 is approx. correct, the exact answer depends on the actual ev of
the game you are playing. The exact analysis is easy and goes as
follows. The multiplier comes up on average every 15 hands and has an
average value of 4.05, these numbers are posted by the game
manufacturer

Hence for a game like 9/6 JOB ev .995 the ev would be:

[(.995)x 5/6 x 14/15] + [(.995) x 5/6 x 4.05 x 1/15]
simplies to .995 x 90.25/90 = .9978

if you were playing a .97 ev game the addition would be slightly less
than .27 close to .28 but when you're fight over basis points every
little bit counts!
since 90.25/90 greater than 1 you know you are gaining over the non-
super times pay version of whatever game you are playing

also since the multplier acts like a linear operator on the game no
strategy changes are required, as they are for multi-strike...another
advantage to this game...I recommend this game it is a lot of fun if
you can find a decent pay-schedule

The WIzard of Odds and SKip Hughes have already analyzed the game

and have

come up with the conclusion that you add .28 the the Basic EV of

the game.

The best version I know of is the 9/6 jacks at Caesars in Vegas.

Most of the

Super Times Pay machines that I've come across have really bad pay

schedules

and the +.28 don't help much.

regards...Tom

From: "futrend" <futrend@y...>
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 12:22 AM
Subject: [vpFREE] Super Times

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> I beleive I have the name corret. There is a multiplier from

2 to

> 10 that randomly appears if you bet 6 coins on each hand. I

believe

> the game is only associated with multi play machines.
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> Is this a good game and is there anyway of analyzing it with

the

> current software? In JoB a pair of dealt Jacks (3 game version)
> obviously returns you 15 coins, but you are now down 3 (assumming
> nothing was added to you hands on the draw). You are down 3 coins
> because you had to bet 18 to be eligible for the possible

multiplier

> (between 2 and 10) that that randomy appears and helps winning

hands.

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