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Super Double Double Bonus Poker question

#1

I will admit that I am dumb enough to play VP at Harrah's because it is
closest to where I live. I know they have short pay VP pay tables which
is stupid to play but I just like to play. Out of the games they have I
love to play Super Double Double Bonus Poker because compared to the
other bad pay tables this one I can live with especially if I get some
bonus hands quickly in the short term. The pay table is 6/5. Knowing
that I only get 6 for 1 on a Full house...if I had a hand with a pair
of Jacks and a pair of 5's and a 6 as the fifth card would it be better
to throw away the 6 and the pair of 5's and go for the 4 of a kind
(possible bonus hand) on this game or does the same strategy apply as
if I were playing an 8/5 Super Double Double Bonus and keep both pairs
and go for the full house?

Any thoughts out there would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Tchic115

#2

  The pay table is 6/5. Knowing

that I only get 6 for 1 on a Full house...if I had a hand with a

pair

of Jacks and a pair of 5's and a 6 as the fifth card would it be

better

to throw away the 6 and the pair of 5's and go for the 4 of a kind
(possible bonus hand) on this game or does the same strategy apply

as

if I were playing an 8/5 Super Double Double Bonus and keep both

pairs

and go for the full house?

Any thoughts out there would be appreciated.

Most Harrahs casinos offer 7/5 Bonus which isn't great but returns
more than this version of SDDB long-term. If you aren't hitting
those "special" SDDB hands and aren't paid 2 for the two pair your
finances can be depleted quickly.

But as for your question your instincts are already telling you that
6 for a full house is paying you back poorly in relation to the good
payout potential of four J,Q or K with a kicker.

So, yes, the math says you hold only the high pair.

One other quirk of this game, regardless of the full house payout, is
holding the kicker dealt with 3 jacks, queens or kings.

You might think having two chances instead of one to draw the four-of-
a-kind would benefit you. But the jump in payout from 250 to 800
makes holding the kicker a better play. You'll just have to ride out
a lot of frustration with the many times you won't draw that other
card to give you the four-of-a-kind. But when you finally hit it
you'll be glad you made the mathematically correct play.

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#3

I will admit that I am dumb enough to play VP at Harrah's because

it is

closest to where I live. I know they have short pay VP pay tables

which

is stupid to play but I just like to play. Out of the games they

have I

love to play Super Double Double Bonus Poker because compared to

the

other bad pay tables this one I can live with especially if I get

some

bonus hands quickly in the short term. The pay table is 6/5.

Knowing

that I only get 6 for 1 on a Full house...if I had a hand with a

pair

of Jacks and a pair of 5's and a 6 as the fifth card would it be

better

to throw away the 6 and the pair of 5's and go for the 4 of a kind
(possible bonus hand) on this game or does the same strategy apply

as

if I were playing an 8/5 Super Double Double Bonus and keep both

pairs

and go for the full house?

Any thoughts out there would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Tchic115

I myself play crap machines all the time. I like to play video
poker, I do not live near a casino, so when I go, I will play any
game I like. It sounds like you do also, so do not apologize for
playing a Harrahs. I would keep the pair of Jacks

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#4

You should get a software program that generates strategies.

vpFae

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On 10 May 2008 at 1:38, tchic115 wrote:

The pay table is 6/5. Knowing that I only get 6 for 1 on a Full
house...if I had a hand with a pair of Jacks and a pair of 5's and a
6 as the fifth card would it be better to throw away the 6 and the
pair of 5's and go for the 4 of a kind (possible bonus hand) on this
game or does the same strategy apply as if I were playing an 8/5
Super Double Double Bonus and keep both pairs and go for the full
house?

Any thoughts out there would be appreciated.

#5

Thanks for the great insight...You made some great points, I had

one of those bad streaks with out bonus hands the last 3 times out
and it has devoured most of my bankroll....Great point about the
kicker, I never considered keeping the kicker because I have been
ingrained with always giving myself 2 chances at the 4 of a kind!
These kinds of responses are what makes this group outstanding.

>
  The pay table is 6/5. Knowing
> that I only get 6 for 1 on a Full house...if I had a hand with a
pair
> of Jacks and a pair of 5's and a 6 as the fifth card would it be
better
> to throw away the 6 and the pair of 5's and go for the 4 of a

kind

> (possible bonus hand) on this game or does the same strategy

apply

as
> if I were playing an 8/5 Super Double Double Bonus and keep both
pairs
> and go for the full house?
>
> Any thoughts out there would be appreciated.

Most Harrahs casinos offer 7/5 Bonus which isn't great but returns
more than this version of SDDB long-term. If you aren't hitting
those "special" SDDB hands and aren't paid 2 for the two pair your
finances can be depleted quickly.

But as for your question your instincts are already telling you

that

6 for a full house is paying you back poorly in relation to the

good

payout potential of four J,Q or K with a kicker.

So, yes, the math says you hold only the high pair.

One other quirk of this game, regardless of the full house payout,

is

holding the kicker dealt with 3 jacks, queens or kings.

You might think having two chances instead of one to draw the four-

of-

a-kind would benefit you. But the jump in payout from 250 to 800
makes holding the kicker a better play. You'll just have to ride

out

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mikeymic" <mikeymic@...> wrote:

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "tchic115" <tchic115@> wrote:
a lot of frustration with the many times you won't draw that other
card to give you the four-of-a-kind. But when you finally hit it
you'll be glad you made the mathematically correct play.

#6

I only mentioned kickers because traditional DDB is so popular and you never hold one in that game.

But most TDB players are accustomed to holding the kicker with 3 aces or 2s, 3s or 4s. And I've had lots of experience not drawing that other card to get the four-of-a-kind
so I know frustration.

So, in SDDB hold that kicker next time with J's, Q's or K's. Got that 800 last trip and it feels good.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "tchic115" <tchic115@...> wrote:

--- Thanks for the great insight...You made some great points, I had

one of those bad streaks with out bonus hands the last 3 times out
and it has devoured most of my bankroll....Great point about the
kicker, I never considered keeping the kicker because I have been
ingrained with always giving myself 2 chances at the 4 of a kind!
These kinds of responses are what makes this group outstanding.

#7

I only mentioned kickers because traditional DDB is so popular and you never hold one in that game.

But most TDB players are accustomed to holding the kicker with 3 aces or 2s, 3s or 4s. And I've had lots of experience not drawing that other card to get the four-of-a-kind
so I know frustration.

So, in SDDB hold that kicker next time with J's, Q's or K's. Got that 800 last trip and it feels good.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "tchic115" <tchic115@...> wrote:

--- Thanks for the great insight...You made some great points, I had

one of those bad streaks with out bonus hands the last 3 times out
and it has devoured most of my bankroll....Great point about the
kicker, I never considered keeping the kicker because I have been
ingrained with always giving myself 2 chances at the 4 of a kind!
These kinds of responses are what makes this group outstanding.

#8

is holding that kicker in TDB the right play? I know that in Deuces Wild Bonus and Double Bonus Decues wild it is correct the hold the A with 22,222,2222 as except with 2222 where you get the 2222A jackpot you also better your chance on the nice 5K payout of 5 Aces.

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mikeymic <mikeymic@yahoo.com> wrote: --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "tchic115" <tchic115@...> wrote:
>> --- Thanks for the great insight...You made some great points, I had
> one of those bad streaks with out bonus hands the last 3 times out
> and it has devoured most of my bankroll....Great point about the
> kicker, I never considered keeping the kicker because I have been
> ingrained with always giving myself 2 chances at the 4 of a kind!
> These kinds of responses are what makes this group outstanding.

I only mentioned kickers because traditional DDB is so popular and you never hold one in that game.

But most TDB players are accustomed to holding the kicker with 3 aces or 2s, 3s or 4s. And I've had lots of experience not drawing that other card to get the four-of-a-kind
so I know frustration.

So, in SDDB hold that kicker next time with J's, Q's or K's. Got that 800 last trip and it feels good.

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