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Super Aces Bonus Poker

#1

That is the 99.9391% game. Calculated from Winpoker. Also the current issue
of Strictly Slots has a shortened strategy for this game that returns
99.9%.

[Original Message]
From: docjump <docjump@earthlink.net>
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 6/7/2005 1:21:55 PM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: Super Aces Bonus Poker

I may have to correct my statement that the SABP games found at Valley

View are true SABP. It is my understanding that the full pay Super Aces pay
table is identical to 8/5 Double Bonus with the obvious exception of the
payoff on four aces (this is information from Bob Dancer). However, there
are two difference in the Valley View machines, the payoff on a SF is 60
rather than 50 on Double Bonus and the payoff on a straight is 4 rather
than 5 on Double Bonus. Is this true full pay SABP or not?

Also, thanks to all who responded to my original strategy table question

on SAPB. I purchased VPSM and it works like a charm. However, it begs the
question of how to determine theoretical return on non-standard pay VP
games?

Thanks again.

  From: vpFREE
  To: vpFREE@Yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 7:38 PM
  Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Super Aces Bonus Poker

  > Hello - I've finally found a VP game with a positive expected return

in

  > a North San Diego Indian Casino that doesn't require a $25 bet, a true
  > SABP on a 3/5 play $.25/$.50/$1.00 machine at Valley View Casino.
  > According to all the experts, the expected return on SABP is 99.9%.

With

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  On 6 Jun 2005 at 23:19, docjump wrote:
  > the slot club at .25%, that puts the game positive, if only slightly.

  Since this game isn't in the DataBase maybe you can
  tell us where the machine(s) are located, how many,
  and whether slant-tops or uprights?

  Anytime anyone finds good machines that aren't in the
  DataBase, please post location details or email to me
  privately. Likewise if you find games that are MIA.

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#2

How does one obtain a copy of "Strictly Slots"? Someone outside Vegas that is.

Thanks

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----- Original Message -----
  From: Howard Stern
  To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 5:22 PM
  Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: Super Aces Bonus Poker

  That is the 99.9391% game. Calculated from Winpoker. Also the current issue
  of Strictly Slots has a shortened strategy for this game that returns
  99.9%.

  > [Original Message]
  > From: docjump <docjump@earthlink.net>
  > To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
  > Date: 6/7/2005 1:21:55 PM
  > Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: Super Aces Bonus Poker
  >
  > I may have to correct my statement that the SABP games found at Valley
  View are true SABP. It is my understanding that the full pay Super Aces pay
  table is identical to 8/5 Double Bonus with the obvious exception of the
  payoff on four aces (this is information from Bob Dancer). However, there
  are two difference in the Valley View machines, the payoff on a SF is 60
  rather than 50 on Double Bonus and the payoff on a straight is 4 rather
  than 5 on Double Bonus. Is this true full pay SABP or not?
  >
  > Also, thanks to all who responded to my original strategy table question
  on SAPB. I purchased VPSM and it works like a charm. However, it begs the
  question of how to determine theoretical return on non-standard pay VP
  games?
  >
  > Thanks again.
  >
  > ----- Original Message -----
  > From: vpFREE
  > To: vpFREE@Yahoogroups.com
  > Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 7:38 PM
  > Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Super Aces Bonus Poker
  >
  >
  > On 6 Jun 2005 at 23:19, docjump wrote:
  >
  > > Hello - I've finally found a VP game with a positive expected return
  in
  > > a North San Diego Indian Casino that doesn't require a $25 bet, a true
  > > SABP on a 3/5 play $.25/$.50/$1.00 machine at Valley View Casino.
  > > According to all the experts, the expected return on SABP is 99.9%.
  With
  > > the slot club at .25%, that puts the game positive, if only slightly.
  >
  > Since this game isn't in the DataBase maybe you can
  > tell us where the machine(s) are located, how many,
  > and whether slant-tops or uprights?
  >
  > Anytime anyone finds good machines that aren't in the
  > DataBase, please post location details or email to me
  > privately. Likewise if you find games that are MIA.
  >
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#3

How does one obtain a copy of "Strictly Slots"?.......

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Call 1-800-969-0711 for subcriptions or back copies.

Perhaps the library might have a copy also.

Babe

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#4

Concerning the issue of Strictly Slots with the Super Aces Bonus Poker strategy table, I obtained the June issue but found nothing related. What specific issue were you referring to?

Thanks.

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----- Original Message -----
  From: Howard Stern
  To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 5:22 PM
  Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: Super Aces Bonus Poker

  That is the 99.9391% game. Calculated from Winpoker. Also the current issue
  of Strictly Slots has a shortened strategy for this game that returns
  99.9%.

  > [Original Message]
  > From: docjump <docjump@earthlink.net>
  > To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
  > Date: 6/7/2005 1:21:55 PM
  > Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: Super Aces Bonus Poker
  >
  > I may have to correct my statement that the SABP games found at Valley
  View are true SABP. It is my understanding that the full pay Super Aces pay
  table is identical to 8/5 Double Bonus with the obvious exception of the
  payoff on four aces (this is information from Bob Dancer). However, there
  are two difference in the Valley View machines, the payoff on a SF is 60
  rather than 50 on Double Bonus and the payoff on a straight is 4 rather
  than 5 on Double Bonus. Is this true full pay SABP or not?
  >
  > Also, thanks to all who responded to my original strategy table question
  on SAPB. I purchased VPSM and it works like a charm. However, it begs the
  question of how to determine theoretical return on non-standard pay VP
  games?
  >
  > Thanks again.
  >
  > ----- Original Message -----
  > From: vpFREE
  > To: vpFREE@Yahoogroups.com
  > Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 7:38 PM
  > Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Super Aces Bonus Poker
  >
  >
  > On 6 Jun 2005 at 23:19, docjump wrote:
  >
  > > Hello - I've finally found a VP game with a positive expected return
  in
  > > a North San Diego Indian Casino that doesn't require a $25 bet, a true
  > > SABP on a 3/5 play $.25/$.50/$1.00 machine at Valley View Casino.
  > > According to all the experts, the expected return on SABP is 99.9%.
  With
  > > the slot club at .25%, that puts the game positive, if only slightly.
  >
  > Since this game isn't in the DataBase maybe you can
  > tell us where the machine(s) are located, how many,
  > and whether slant-tops or uprights?
  >
  > Anytime anyone finds good machines that aren't in the
  > DataBase, please post location details or email to me
  > privately. Likewise if you find games that are MIA.
  >
  > vpFREE Administrator
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  >
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#5

Concerning the issue of Strictly Slots with the Super Aces Bonus

Poker strategy table, I obtained the June issue but found nothing
related. What specific issue were you referring to?

I think that strategy was in the May issue--the one with the new Star
Wars slots on the cover.

Drew

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#6

The article was my Skip's Tips column in the May Strictly Slots. Around the first of the month "current issue" often becomes a little ambiguous. <g>

Skip

docjump wrote:

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Concerning the issue of Strictly Slots with the Super Aces Bonus Poker strategy table, I obtained the June issue but found nothing related. What specific issue were you referring to?

Thanks.

  ----- Original Message ----- From: Howard Stern To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 5:22 PM
  Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: Super Aces Bonus Poker

  That is the 99.9391% game. Calculated from Winpoker. Also the current issue
  of Strictly Slots has a shortened strategy for this game that returns
  99.9%.

  > [Original Message]
  > From: docjump <docjump@earthlink.net>
  > To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
  > Date: 6/7/2005 1:21:55 PM
  > Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: Super Aces Bonus Poker
  >
  > I may have to correct my statement that the SABP games found at Valley
  View are true SABP. It is my understanding that the full pay Super Aces pay
  table is identical to 8/5 Double Bonus with the obvious exception of the
  payoff on four aces (this is information from Bob Dancer). However, there
  are two difference in the Valley View machines, the payoff on a SF is 60
  rather than 50 on Double Bonus and the payoff on a straight is 4 rather
  than 5 on Double Bonus. Is this true full pay SABP or not? >
  > Also, thanks to all who responded to my original strategy table question
  on SAPB. I purchased VPSM and it works like a charm. However, it begs the
  question of how to determine theoretical return on non-standard pay VP
  games?
  >
  > Thanks again.
  >
  > ----- Original Message ----- > From: vpFREE > To: vpFREE@Yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 7:38 PM
  > Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Super Aces Bonus Poker
  >
  > On 6 Jun 2005 at 23:19, docjump wrote:
  >
  > > Hello - I've finally found a VP game with a positive expected return
  in
  > > a North San Diego Indian Casino that doesn't require a $25 bet, a true
  > > SABP on a 3/5 play $.25/$.50/$1.00 machine at Valley View Casino.
  > > According to all the experts, the expected return on SABP is 99.9%.
  With
  > > the slot club at .25%, that puts the game positive, if only slightly. >
  > Since this game isn't in the DataBase maybe you can
  > tell us where the machine(s) are located, how many,
  > and whether slant-tops or uprights?
  >
  > Anytime anyone finds good machines that aren't in the
  > DataBase, please post location details or email to me
  > privately. Likewise if you find games that are MIA.
  >
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