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Suoer Times Play Strategy

#1

A casino offers the JoB Super Times Play game with up to a 10 hand
option. Is it not logical to play all ten hands if one is going to
pay for the multiplier with the extra (6th) coin?
  I am thinking that since this is simply a multiplier that randomly
appears one should have played all hands in order to receive some
possible benefit from the multiplier when it appears. It would be
great to hold or be dealt a winning hand afer the hold when the
multiplier appears. However, often a winning hand is not possible
on the dealt hand. Obviously the more hands played the better the
opportunity to receive some benefit.
  The Wizard of Odds says the multiplier adds marginally to the
expected return. If it is a FP JoB you would multiply 99.54 times
1.00278 for the new return and to use normal JoB play strategy.
Thanks for any help.

Bob

#2

The multiplier is completely independent of the number of hands played.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "futrend" <futrend@y...> wrote:

  A casino offers the JoB Super Times Play game with up to a 10 hand
option. Is it not logical to play all ten hands if one is going to
pay for the multiplier with the extra (6th) coin?
  I am thinking that since this is simply a multiplier that randomly
appears one should have played all hands in order to receive some
possible benefit from the multiplier when it appears. It would be
great to hold or be dealt a winning hand afer the hold when the
multiplier appears. However, often a winning hand is not possible
on the dealt hand. Obviously the more hands played the better the
opportunity to receive some benefit.
  The Wizard of Odds says the multiplier adds marginally to the
expected return. If it is a FP JoB you would multiply 99.54 times
1.00278 for the new return and to use normal JoB play strategy.
Thanks for any help.

Bob

#3

I understand this independence. Because of the "Independence" I
asked the following question. If you play his game, shouldn't you
always play the maximum hands possible in order to receive some
possible benefit when it does appear? It seems more likely you will
have one or more of your hands be a winner instead of you dealt hand
being "shut out" --- thus no multiplyer benefit this cycle.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "GOLDFADA" <GOLDFADA@e...> wrote:
  "The multiplier is completely independent of the number of hands
played."

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "futrend" <futrend@y...> wrote:

   A casino offers the JoB Super Times Play game with up to a 10 hand
option. Is it not logical to play all ten hands if one is going to
pay for the multiplier with the extra (6th) coin?
   I am thinking that since this is simply a multiplier that randomly
appears one should have played all hands in order to receive some
possible benefit from the multiplier when it appears. It would be
great to hold or be dealt a winning hand afer the hold when the
multiplier appears. However, often a winning hand is not possible
on the dealt hand. Obviously the more hands played the better the
opportunity to receive some benefit.
   The Wizard of Odds says the multiplier adds marginally to the
expected return. If it is a FP JoB you would multiply 99.54 times
1.00278 for the new return and to use normal JoB play strategy.
Thanks for any help.

Bob

#4

I understand this independence. Because of the "Independence" I
asked the following question. If you play his game, shouldn't you
always play the maximum hands possible in order to receive some
possible benefit when it does appear?

The answer is YES with unlimited bankroll. The long term EV stays the same weither you play 3 or 10 play, but the fun factor is there with the 10 play. Most Important - Say you only have $300 - then you'd have a much much better chance of avoiding
gamblers ruin by playing the 3 play version. I've played these machines in Reno and Vegas and things are "super" when luck is
with you and extra sucky when a cold streak comes your way !

best wishes....Tom

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----- Original Message ----- From: "futrend" <futrend@yahoo.com>
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 11:37 AM
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Super Times Pay Strategy

#5

As with other multiplay games, STP ER is no different whether 1, 3, 5 or 10
hands are played.

Chandler

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-----Original Message-----
From: futrend [mailto:futr…@…com]
Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 10:37 AM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Super Times Pay Strategy

I understand this independence. Because of the "Independence" I
asked the following question. If you play his game, shouldn't you
always play the maximum hands possible in order to receive some
possible benefit when it does appear? It seems more likely you will
have one or more of your hands be a winner instead of you dealt hand
being "shut out" --- thus no multiplyer benefit this cycle.

#6

I played these at CP for 2 days and was down abt $3200 and then got abt half
of it back in the last 30 minutes. My friend was dealt a quad on a 5X. Big
hand.

JAS

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----- Original Message -----
From: "tomflush" <tomflush@nyc.rr.com>
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: Super Times Pay Strategy

----- Original Message -----
From: "futrend" <futrend@yahoo.com>
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 11:37 AM
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Super Times Pay Strategy

>
>
> I understand this independence. Because of the "Independence" I
> asked the following question. If you play his game, shouldn't you
> always play the maximum hands possible in order to receive some
> possible benefit when it does appear?
The answer is YES with unlimited bankroll. The long term EV stays the same
weither you play 3 or 10 play, but the fun factor is there with the 10

play.

Most Important - Say you only have $300 - then you'd have a much much

better

chance of avoiding
gamblers ruin by playing the 3 play version. I've played these machines in
Reno and Vegas and things are "super" when luck is
with you and extra sucky when a cold streak comes your way !

best wishes....Tom

>

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#7

I think I may understand your question now. The multiplier is
programmed to appear randomly. It multiplies the payoff on all hands
that are being played. It does not appear more often if you play ten
than if you play one. Therefore, the expected return on the machine
is exactly the same no matter how many hands are being played and
there is no additional monetary value to be gained by playing
additional hands.

I understand this independence. Because of the "Independence" I
asked the following question. If you play his game, shouldn't you
always play the maximum hands possible in order to receive some
possible benefit when it does appear? It seems more likely you

will

have one or more of your hands be a winner instead of you dealt

hand

being "shut out" --- thus no multiplyer benefit this cycle.

  "The multiplier is completely independent of the number of hands
played."

   A casino offers the JoB Super Times Play game with up to a 10

hand

option. Is it not logical to play all ten hands if one is going to
pay for the multiplier with the extra (6th) coin?
   I am thinking that since this is simply a multiplier that

randomly

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "futrend" <futrend@y...> wrote:

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "GOLDFADA" <GOLDFADA@e...> wrote:
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "futrend" <futrend@y...> wrote:
appears one should have played all hands in order to receive some
possible benefit from the multiplier when it appears. It would be
great to hold or be dealt a winning hand afer the hold when the
multiplier appears. However, often a winning hand is not possible
on the dealt hand. Obviously the more hands played the better the
opportunity to receive some benefit.
   The Wizard of Odds says the multiplier adds marginally to the
expected return. If it is a FP JoB you would multiply 99.54 times
1.00278 for the new return and to use normal JoB play strategy.
Thanks for any help.

Bob

#8

I looked at one today and saw very bad schedules
What are the best ones out there?
Assume 9/6 JOB (99.54) what would be the super pay EV?
etc..
Thank you

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On Sun, 03 Apr 2005 23:16:21 -0000, you wrote:

I think I may understand your question now. The multiplier is
programmed to appear randomly. It multiplies the payoff on all hands
that are being played. It does not appear more often if you play ten
than if you play one. Therefore, the expected return on the machine
is exactly the same no matter how many hands are being played and
there is no additional monetary value to be gained by playing
additional hands.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "futrend" <futrend@y...> wrote:

I understand this independence. Because of the "Independence" I
asked the following question. If you play his game, shouldn't you
always play the maximum hands possible in order to receive some
possible benefit when it does appear? It seems more likely you

will

have one or more of your hands be a winner instead of you dealt

hand

being "shut out" --- thus no multiplyer benefit this cycle.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "GOLDFADA" <GOLDFADA@e...> wrote:
  "The multiplier is completely independent of the number of hands
played."

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "futrend" <futrend@y...> wrote:

   A casino offers the JoB Super Times Play game with up to a 10

hand

option. Is it not logical to play all ten hands if one is going to
pay for the multiplier with the extra (6th) coin?
   I am thinking that since this is simply a multiplier that

randomly

appears one should have played all hands in order to receive some
possible benefit from the multiplier when it appears. It would be
great to hold or be dealt a winning hand afer the hold when the
multiplier appears. However, often a winning hand is not possible
on the dealt hand. Obviously the more hands played the better the
opportunity to receive some benefit.
   The Wizard of Odds says the multiplier adds marginally to the
expected return. If it is a FP JoB you would multiply 99.54 times
1.00278 for the new return and to use normal JoB play strategy.
Thanks for any help.

Bob

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