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suncoast full pay poker

Every one else has given their opinion so here's mine. The problem with suncoast is is in the fact that they had .25 cash back to begin with. Add this to multi point days and a machine that returns 100.7% and it is understandable for the casino to change the machines. On double point days a good dueces player is in effect playing a 101.2% machine. This is why most of you are upset. The other locals casinos do not have this cash back(palms,stations). Sams town does offer a small cash back but not nearly as many double point days. Now by changing to nsud on double point days the machine will come in at around 100.2%. I do see both sides of this however. If a casino is going to make a offer people will take them up on it. I myself took a 3 day trip to suncoast during cinco d mayo. If you remember they were giving 5x points that holiday.I was fully comped rfb in a suite and happen to win. After 3 days I cashed out $760 cash back plus a bag full of free shirts for friends back home. Guess what. I have never heard another word from them or have never received another offer in the mail.All I did was play the system they put in place. I also believe that they were not losing money on the fpdw. It has been my observation that most people who play dueces simply have no idea what they are doing. In fact a lot of people would be better off just playing the slots with what the hold and try to draw to. I think we can expect to see fpdw killed off at all the coast casinos in the near future. However I do expect them to keep 10 7 double bonus at $1.00 and below. This game is much harder to play perfectly and they do have to try to be somewhat competitive inthe locals market. Sorry this rables on just my take on what is happening. Bottom line If they keep the cash back the ducks ar dead.

There are other ways to reduce the goodies given to players .
You don't have to destroy all your good games.
They could do like Arizona Charlies and just announce that the FPDW machines are
not included in any multi-point promotions.
This would not annoy anywhere near the number of customers that pulling FPDW is doing.
They could even reduce the points awarded on the FPDW machines like the Strat does on their >100 %
machines.

Regards
A.P.

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----- Original Message -----
  From: rkenner_76098 <rkenner@webtv.net>
  To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 11:53 PM
  Subject: [vpFREE] suncoast full pay poker

  Every one else has given their opinion so here's mine. The problem with suncoast is is in the fact that they had .25 cash back to begin with. Add this to multi point days and a machine that returns 100.7% and it is understandable for the casino to change the machines. On double point days a good dueces player is in effect playing a 101.2% machine. This is why most of you are upset. The other locals casinos do not have this cash back(palms,stations). Sams town does offer a small cash back but not nearly as many double point days. Now by changing to nsud on double point days the machine will come in at around 100.2%. I do see both sides of this however. If a casino is going to make a offer people will take them up on it. I myself took a 3 day trip to suncoast during cinco d mayo. If you remember they were giving 5x points that holiday.I was fully comped rfb in a suite and happen to win. After 3 days I cashed out $760 cash back plus a bag full of free shirts for friends back home. Guess what. I have never heard another word from them or have never received another offer in the mail.All I did was play the system they put in place. I also believe that they were not losing money on the fpdw. It has been my observation that most people who play dueces simply have no idea what they are doing. In fact a lot of people would be better off just playing the slots with what the hold and try to draw to. I think we can expect to see fpdw killed off at all the coast casinos in the near future. However I do expect them to keep 10 7 double bonus at $1.00 and below. This game is much harder to play perfectly and they do have to try to be somewhat competitive inthe locals market. Sorry this rables on just my take on what is happening. Bottom line If they keep the cash back the ducks ar dead.

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