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Suncoast False Advertising

#1

Suncoast has a bank of 9/6 DDB machines with signs overheard each one that say "99% or More Payback". Paytable is 98.98% - clearly under 99%.
These are twelve upright machines near the escalator to bingo with 25c, 50c and $1 9/6 DDB. No other games on them.

In other Suncoast news - My Red Rock Station July mailer says that Frankie Aragonez is a new "Slot Manager" there. He had worked at Suncoast for many years as a slot shift manager. Maybe he took his list of undesirables with him to Red Rock. :frowning:

#2

I’m not defending them, but it would be over %99 if you included cash back.

A.P.

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Suncoast has a bank of 9/6 DDB machines with signs overheard each one that say “99% or More Payback”. Paytable is 98.98% - clearly under 99%.

These are twelve upright machines near the escalator to bingo with 25c, 50c and $1 9/6 DDB. No other games on them.

In other Suncoast news - My Red Rock Station July mailer says that Frankie Aragonez is a new “Slot Manager” there. He had worked at Suncoast for many years as a slot shift manager. Maybe he took his list of undesirables with him to Red Rock. :frowning:

#3

Even without cash back, it is standard rounding.

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On 7/6/2014 7:38 PM, Albert Pearson ehpee@rogers.com [vpFREE] wrote:

I'm not defending them, but it would be over %99 if you included cash back.

A.P.

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Suncoast has a bank of 9/6 DDB machines with signs overheard each one that say "99% or More Payback". Paytable is 98.98% - clearly under 99%.
These are twelve upright machines near the escalator to bingo with 25c, 50c and $1 9/6 DDB. No other games on them.

In other Suncoast news - My Red Rock Station July mailer says that Frankie Aragonez is a new "Slot Manager" there. He had worked at Suncoast for many years as a slot shift manager. Maybe he took his list of undesirables with him to Red Rock. :frowning:

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#4

Rounding 98.98% up to 99% may be “standard” rounding, but I agree that it’s false advertising, especially for video poker since it requires computer
perfect play to achieve the payback calculated by a game analyzer. For example, one writer cites 100.2% for his Double Bonus Poker strategy (rounded up from 100.17%). I advertize 100.15% for my cue card to allow for player errors, even though the strategy chart on the cue card evaluates to 100.16%. Don’t forget, however, that it is standard practice for casinos to give the impression that the player has a chance to win in the long run.