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! Sun report ! : full-pay PKM is back for $5+; theo/lounge info

#1

For those of you who persevered in boycotting MS, your strategy might
have worked. All $5, $10, & $25 Pick 'Em is back to full-pay. MS
might be the only place in North America that has this now in $25
denom for those who want to brave it and its 352,000 hand royal
cycle. I did not see any $1 converted as yet though. They also have
two $5 GameMakers with full-pay JOB; they are the second ones in from
the left and the right in the bank of 7 in the high limit area of the
Sky casino. All bartops in Bow&Arrow and Hall of Lost Tribes still
have $1 9/6 JOB.

While there is conflicting info as to exactly how the hosts computer
determines who gets admitted into a lounge automatically, I was told
that a $425 daily theo is the magic number. Whether this is averaged
over your last 6 visits or 30 days or minimum/visit remains
inconclusive. I did get to see my computer screen again. My nights
play at the 9/6 $1 JOB at a Bow & Arrow bartop yielded a theo of
8.35% of my coin-in. I also noticed an exclusive nights play at
a .25 PKM earlier in the year yielded a theo of an interestingly low
4.5% of my coin-in. Back when there was full-pay $1 PKM in the old
poker room I indicated my theo was 6% of coin-in. Apparently, via
host's conversation, the computer is classifying the bartops as
penny machines even though they are multi-denom -- hence, the high
theo classification. I would be interested if someone finds out
their theo on the $5 PKM or $5 JOB machines -- I do not have the
bankroll to support those.

#2

While this is a welcomed change at Mohegan note that the comp level on the
$5 machines is 1/3 the level on $1 machines elsewhere at MS. There are
signs on many of the machines in the Sky high roller area stating that it
takes $270 to earn $1 in comps. Did not check the $10, $25 machines but the
$5 machines with full pay pickem are at the .37% comp rate versus the 1.12%
rate for other dollar and up games. (At least I believe this is the rate on
the other machines.)

Even at the reduced rate, the $5 pickems are a pretty good play. At 99.9%
with a .37% comp rate this is a "positive" play. While I haven't studied
all the AC and Vegas casinos, my guess is that you would have trouble
finding anything much better..and if you live in New England, the advantage
of traveling outside the area are now outweighed by the expense and
time...if you are a $5 player. Perhaps....

Not as good as before but not too bad.

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Subject: [vpFREE_NewEngland] ! Sun report ! : full-pay PKM is back for $5+;
theo/lounge info

For those of you who persevered in boycotting MS, your strategy might
have worked. All $5, $10, & $25 Pick 'Em is back to full-pay. MS
might be the only place in North America that has this now in $25
denom for those who want to brave it and its 352,000 hand royal
cycle. I did not see any $1 converted as yet though. They also have
two $5 GameMakers with full-pay JOB; they are the second ones in from
the left and the right in the bank of 7 in the high limit area of the
Sky casino. All bartops in Bow&Arrow and Hall of Lost Tribes still
have $1 9/6 JOB.

While there is conflicting info as to exactly how the hosts computer
determines who gets admitted into a lounge automatically, I was told
that a $425 daily theo is the magic number. Whether this is averaged
over your last 6 visits or 30 days or minimum/visit remains
inconclusive. I did get to see my computer screen again. My nights
play at the 9/6 $1 JOB at a Bow & Arrow bartop yielded a theo of
8.35% of my coin-in. I also noticed an exclusive nights play at
a .25 PKM earlier in the year yielded a theo of an interestingly low
4.5% of my coin-in. Back when there was full-pay $1 PKM in the old
poker room I indicated my theo was 6% of coin-in. Apparently, via
host's conversation, the computer is classifying the bartops as
penny machines even though they are multi-denom -- hence, the high
theo classification. I would be interested if someone finds out
their theo on the $5 PKM or $5 JOB machines -- I do not have the
bankroll to support those.

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