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STAY AWAY FROM NEW YORK, NEW YORK - Final note

After sending my host a copy of his e-mail offering RFL status, they have now comped $300 F&B. I guess NYNY RFL is $100 a day.
I still won't be staying there again.

Joel

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----- Original Message ----
From: Joel Fink <joel0457@yahoo.com>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2008 9:04:27 PM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: STAY AWAY FROM NEW YORK, NEW YORK

You're using the EV to determine the theo. The theo is typically much higher. At MS in CT the theo is 5%. on 9/6 JOB. Room comps and shows don't count against your comp balance. So, in additon to a suite and shows, I would have earned approx 3K in points. This compares to the $400 NYNY wouldn't comp.

----- Original Message ----
From: npf152512 <npf152512@yahoo.com>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2008 4:43:34 PM
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: STAY AWAY FROM NEW YORK, NEW YORK

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups. com, Joel Fink <joel0457@.. .> wrote:

I just got back from a 6 night trip to Vegas with the last three

(12/28-12/31) at NYNY. My host comped me into a suite with another
room plus RFB.

When I went to check out, not only were all food charges on the

bill but I was charged $200 for one nt for the second room. They did
renove the charge for the second room at checkout. My total food
charges for the 3 nts were only $400.

I spoke to my host Steven Bernstein who told me I was over comped.

I put through over 250K+ during the three days I was there.

A host (not yours) explained what apparently is MGM-Mirage policy as
follows:

Your comps are evaluated based on theoretical if you did not show a
loss. You didn't mention what machines you played. But if you put
$250K through a 9/6 Jacks machine with a return of 99.55%, your
expected long-term loss would only be $1125 if my math is correct,
which isn't always the case. The casino sees that number.

From that number, you don't receive 100% in comps. There is a range
of up to 20%, which makes your total comps equal to $225. I know that
sounds ridiculous based on your substantial coin-in, but that's the
way they look at it. Furthermore, it can get worse - based on your
being "overcomped" you may not hear from NYNY at all in the future
until you show a sizeable loss.

That's the policy as I understand it. So, you can argue with hosts
for exceptions, or do as I and many others have done and simply move
on.

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After sending my host a copy of his e-mail offering RFL status, they

have now comped $300 F&B. I guess NYNY RFL is $100 a day.

I still won't be staying there again.

Joel

If you remember that's what I reported s_ _ t head Steve Bernstein
told me before I went on my Aug.trip . I averaged only $55/day and
was still turned down for a meal comp with him saying that I was
overcomped !

  Larry F.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Joel Fink <joel0457@...> wrote: