About 6 months ago while staying at Red Rock, I ask at the card desk about the reason locals received multipoints days, gifts, more offers, etc, and was told that out of towners received the room offers. (Or I should say "You got a room didn't you and locals don't"). Do locals not receive room offers? I will be at Red Rock this weekend for the Toby Keith concert with room and free tickets. Did locals receive this also? Not that I care that much for Harrahs, but at least they let you take a year to earn a certain status and a year to enjoy it with lots of offers. Any remarks? Thanks
Stations - out of towners
I'm a local and have received complimentary room offers from Red Rock.
···
On 24 Aug 2009, at 18:52, mickeyska wrote:
About 6 months ago while staying at Red Rock, I ask at the card
desk about the reason locals received multipoints days, gifts, more
offers, etc, and was told that out of towners received the room
offers. (Or I should say "You got a room didn't you and locals
don't"). Do locals not receive room offers? I will be at Red Rock
this weekend for the Toby Keith concert with room and free tickets.
Did locals receive this also? Not that I care that much for
Harrahs, but at least they let you take a year to earn a certain
status and a year to enjoy it with lots of offers. Any remarks?
Thanks
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Locals get room offers, concert offers, essentially out of market get less on machines, no matter what they tell you. Out of town table players get more, because they get 20% of theo, locals on 5%. Don't try to rationalize anything they do - the club desk can't explain it - in a nutshell, management has a degenerative brain disease, they get dumber and dumber every month -and they can't help themselves and unless they get a brain from the Wizard of Oz, there is pretty much no hope. This is going to get worse, Boyd is going to end up with some of their properties, there will be less competition.
Count yourself as lucky, if you live near Silverton or Southpoint or near the Palms they are the only local casinos worth going to in my view, particularly for low limit players. If you are a high roller, you can go to Wynn and do really well as a local now. Some of you are fascinated with Optimums, I am not because the comps stink, but to each their own.
···
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Nathan O. Roemer" <public@...> wrote:
I'm a local and have received complimentary room offers from Red Rock.
On 24 Aug 2009, at 18:52, mickeyska wrote:
> About 6 months ago while staying at Red Rock, I ask at the card
> desk about the reason locals received multipoints days, gifts, more
> offers, etc, and was told that out of towners received the room
> offers. (Or I should say "You got a room didn't you and locals
> don't"). Do locals not receive room offers? I will be at Red Rock
> this weekend for the Toby Keith concert with room and free tickets.
> Did locals receive this also? Not that I care that much for
> Harrahs, but at least they let you take a year to earn a certain
> status and a year to enjoy it with lots of offers. Any remarks?
> Thanks
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
If you are a high roller, you can go to Wynn and do really well as a local now. >
Unfortunately, only for a little while, then your mailers will stop. Investigation will reveal you have a notation on your account that you are a "video poker advantage player". Didn't the bean counters watch the 60 Minutes interview with Steve Wynn where he said nobody has ever beaten a casino? Just a few local high roller video poker players left at Wynn that I have seen lately and some of them were cut off this month.
···
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "caplatinum" <belairgold@...> wrote:
Can you quantify this, I heard anywhere from $1,000 - $2,000 a month for $270,000 coin in and what do they look at to determine advantage as their games are negative with 9/6 plus free play (.22) and is based on win/loss, so as long as you lose, they keep the mail coming and if an idiot gets a dealt royal they are AP?
···
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "vegasvpplayer" <vegasvpplayer@...> wrote:
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "caplatinum" <belairgold@> wrote:
>
If you are a high roller, you can go to Wynn and do really well as a local now. >Unfortunately, only for a little while, then your mailers will stop. Investigation will reveal you have a notation on your account that you are a "video poker advantage player". Didn't the bean counters watch the 60 Minutes interview with Steve Wynn where he said nobody has ever beaten a casino? Just a few local high roller video poker players left at Wynn that I have seen lately and some of them were cut off this month.
In the past, winning appeared to be the determining factor for removal from the locals mailing list. In my case, I lost over $30k in the two months preceeding my removal. They may be looking for players that play 9/6 JoB exclusively and consistantly play close to the mailer thresholds.
···
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "caplatinum" <belairgold@...> wrote:
Can you quantify this, I heard anywhere from $1,000 - $2,000 a month for $270,000 coin in and what do they look at to determine advantage as their games are negative with 9/6 plus free play (.22) and is based on win/loss, so as long as you lose, they keep the mail coming and if an idiot gets a dealt royal they are AP?
Do they tell you the mailer threshold, can you share this info? How do they know you are playing 9/6 exclusive as opposed to Bonus Poker, without visual observation, I think the computers only show what machine you played, not which game on the machine?
···
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "vegasvpplayer" <vegasvpplayer@...> wrote:
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "caplatinum" <belairgold@> wrote:
>
> Can you quantify this, I heard anywhere from $1,000 - $2,000 a month for $270,000 coin in and what do they look at to determine advantage as their games are negative with 9/6 plus free play (.22) and is based on win/loss, so as long as you lose, they keep the mail coming and if an idiot gets a dealt royal they are AP?
>In the past, winning appeared to be the determining factor for removal from the locals mailing list. In my case, I lost over $30k in the two months preceeding my removal. They may be looking for players that play 9/6 JoB exclusively and consistantly play close to the mailer thresholds.
@ > > > Can you quantify this, I heard anywhere from $1,000 - $2,000 a month for $270,000 coin in and what do they look at to determine advantage as their games are negative with 9/6 plus free play (.22) and is based on win/loss, so as long as you lose, they keep the mail coming and if an idiot gets a dealt royal they are AP?
> >
At the Wynn, it is$9 in for each point. Therefore, you'd have to put in $270,000 to receive 3000 points.
Too many zeros. 3000 points=$27000 coin in.
Don't sweat it. Happens all the time.
···
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 7:47 AM, stuckinvegas <stuckinvegas@yahoo.com>wrote:
@ > > > Can you quantify this, I heard anywhere from $1,000 - $2,000 a
month for $270,000 coin in and what do they look at to determine advantage
as their games are negative with 9/6 plus free play (.22) and is based on
win/loss, so as long as you lose, they keep the mail coming and if an idiot
gets a dealt royal they are AP?
> > >At the Wynn, it is$9 in for each point. Therefore, you'd have to put in
$270,000 to receive 3000 points.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Huh! (3,000 x $9 = $27,000)
..... bl
···
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "stuckinvegas" <stuckinvegas@...> wrote:
At the Wynn, it is$9 in for each point. Therefore, you'd have to put in $270,000 to receive 3000 points.
Huh! (3,000 x $9 = $27,000)
..... bl
···
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "stuckinvegas" <stuckinvegas@...> wrote:
At the Wynn, it is$9 in for each point. Therefore, you'd have to put in $270,000 to receive 3000 points.
I am talking about the stuff they mail to you on top the 0.22%
···
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "stuckinvegas" <stuckinvegas@...> wrote:
@ > > > Can you quantify this, I heard anywhere from $1,000 - $2,000 a month for $270,000 coin in and what do they look at to determine advantage as their games are negative with 9/6 plus free play (.22) and is based on win/loss, so as long as you lose, they keep the mail coming and if an idiot gets a dealt royal they are AP?
> > >At the Wynn, it is$9 in for each point. Therefore, you'd have to put in $270,000 to receive 3000 points.
Or, they may be able to analyze for skill. Then again, I've heard reports that people who you or I would be happy to deal to have been backed off the mail, merely for being lucky.
···
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "vegasvpplayer" <vegasvpplayer@...> wrote:
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "caplatinum" <belairgold@> wrote:
>
> Can you quantify this, I heard anywhere from $1,000 - $2,000 a month for $270,000 coin in and what do they look at to determine advantage as their games are negative with 9/6 plus free play (.22) and is based on win/loss, so as long as you lose, they keep the mail coming and if an idiot gets a dealt royal they are AP?
>In the past, winning appeared to be the determining factor for removal from the locals mailing list. In my case, I lost over $30k in the two months preceeding my removal. They may be looking for players that play 9/6 JoB exclusively and consistantly play close to the mailer thresholds.
I know for a fact that backed off less than AP players, but those players still may have been playing 9/6 Jacks exclusive, just not perfect and mixed in with some DDB hands ever so often.
···
-- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "paladingamingllc" <paladingamingllc@...> wrote:
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "vegasvpplayer" <vegasvpplayer@> wrote:
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "caplatinum" <belairgold@> wrote:
> >
> > Can you quantify this, I heard anywhere from $1,000 - $2,000 a month for $270,000 coin in and what do they look at to determine advantage as their games are negative with 9/6 plus free play (.22) and is based on win/loss, so as long as you lose, they keep the mail coming and if an idiot gets a dealt royal they are AP?
> >
>
>
>
> In the past, winning appeared to be the determining factor for removal from the locals mailing list. In my case, I lost over $30k in the two months preceeding my removal. They may be looking for players that play 9/6 JoB exclusively and consistantly play close to the mailer thresholds.Or, they may be able to analyze for skill. Then again, I've heard reports that people who you or I would be happy to deal to have been backed off the mail, merely for being lucky.