I know Fiesta has 50+ benefits. Does Stations do something for 55+? Can
anybody tell me what the benefits are or what you get? (No, I'm not quite
there yet!)
Thanks.
Scot
Stations 55+?
I guess I can answer my own previous post. According to the LVA, a report in
the RJ confirms that South Coast will become South Point Casino.
Scot
I don't think casinos should be allowed to change names.
When this happens I'll have to figure out what to do with my session results
database.
I could change the name in all the old sessions to the new name
or
I could keep using "South Caost" despite it no longer being the name
or
I could use the new name for the new sessions, but then there's be two names
for one casino.
I hate all these options.
Does anyone have this Gaughan guy's e-mail address or phone number? I want
to bitch at him for making my life difficult.
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On 8/9/06, Scot Krause <krauseinvegas@cox.net> wrote:
I guess I can answer my own previous post. According to the LVA, a report
in
the RJ confirms that South Coast will become South Point Casino.
Scot, Stations has 55+ "old age" coupons which must be picked up every 3 months, and are hardly worth the effort. Te following are typical. July-Sept coupons: Mondays are Free Jumbo Bingo progressives with minimum buy-in. Wednesdays(July,Sept) Free appetizer at Cafe with puchase of entree/ or Buffets for minimal number of earned points that day. Wednesays(August) Free dessert in cafe with entree purchase or $2 off in Viva Salsa. Thursdays: 3x points in July, $5 match play in August, Free $1 4-spot keno in September. That's the extent of it. Stay young.
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To: "VP Free" <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 4:34 PM
Subject: [vpFREE] Stations 55+?
I know Fiesta has 50+ benefits. Does Stations do something for 55+? Can
anybody tell me what the benefits are or what you get? (No, I'm not quite
there yet!)Thanks.
Scot
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Richard wrote: 55+ "old age" coupons which must be picked up every 3
months, and are hardly worth the effort.
Not exactly. I didn't play at Station for a few years. Finally when I
decided the $5 NSU at Palace was sufficient to play, I needed to get my
play in so I could get bounceback coupons. So the 3x points coupons one
day a week were very useful during the period of time that I wasn't
receiving any other coupons. After I started to receive 4x and 5x
coupons, then 3x held no interest.
Bob Dancer
For the best in video poker information, visit www.bobdancer.com
or call 1-800-244-2224 M-F 9-5 Pacific Time.
John and I both received a mailer from the Suncoast today. They offered $15 in points (that's 5000 points) if we would reply to an online survey about local casinos. So we did it -- it took about 20 minutes to answer all their questions (some were rather personal about our gambling habits, but most were about what we liked about our favorite casinos). Our questionnaire was directed toward the Suncoast (naturally), but I wonder if we will get similar promotion benefits from other casinos we frequent (Stations, for example). By the way, the promo said it would take up to seven days to register the extra points. They were not there when we went to the Suncoast this evening.
-- Steve in LV
Thanks to all who responded.
Scot
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-----Original Message-----
From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpF…@…com]On Behalf Of
Richard Gordon
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 6:50 PM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Stations 55+?
Scot, Stations has 55+ "old age" coupons which must be picked up every 3
months, and are hardly worth the effort. Te following are typical.
July-Sept coupons: Mondays are Free Jumbo Bingo progressives with minimum
buy-in. Wednesdays(July,Sept) Free appetizer at Cafe with puchase of entree/
or Buffets for minimal number of earned points that day. Wednesays(August)
Free dessert in cafe with entree purchase or $2 off in Viva Salsa.
Thursdays: 3x points in July, $5 match play in August, Free $1 4-spot keno
in September. That's the extent of it. Stay young.
My partner and I received the same mailer from the Orleans. Same $15 in
points offer as Suncoast for answering the questionnaire.
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-----Original Message-----
From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpF…@…com] On Behalf
Of Steve Del Nero
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 12:09 AM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vpFREE] New Suncoast Mailer
John and I both received a mailer from the Suncoast today. They offered
$15
in points (that's 5000 points) if we would reply to an online survey
about
local casinos. So we did it -- it took about 20 minutes to answer all
their
questions (some were rather personal about our gambling habits, but most
were about what we liked about our favorite casinos). Our questionnaire
was directed toward the Suncoast (naturally), but I wonder if we will
get
similar promotion benefits from other casinos we frequent (Stations, for
example). By the way, the promo said it would take up to seven days to
register the extra points. They were not there when we went to the
Suncoast
this evening.
-- Steve in LV
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
This is not about Video Poker but is about a potential advantage play I have
discovered. This concerns a blackjack game on a machine. I don't think the
machine is really advantageous on its own, but combined with promotions and
bounce back cash; it may be.
My problem is this: I am looking for a blackjack game analyzer and simulator
that can handle this game. I have not been able to find one as yet. The game
MAY have a VERY slight player advantage if a composition dependent strategy
is used. The Wizard of Odds site implies this when I use the BJ calculator
there.
I would welcome any help to find a suitable software program where I could
run simulations of perfect play for 2, 3, 4, and 5 cards taking into account
the dealer's up card as well as any cards already seen in the hand.
I'll even post the rules:
Single deck shuffled after each hand (only 1 player per hand. This game is
on a machine)
Dealer stands on all 17
Dealer has a hole card
Tied Blackjacks are a push
Double 9, 10, 11 only
No Double after split
Split only once
Re-Hit split Aces
BJ pays 3:2
6 Card automatic winner for player but not dealer
No insurance
No surrender
This is not about Video Poker but is about a potential advantage
play I have
discovered. This concerns a blackjack game on a machine. I don't
think the
machine is really advantageous on its own, but combined with
promotions and
bounce back cash; it may be.
Shackleford's formulae is probably good enough. With perfect play
you're looking at .11.
One Strip casino has a 99.73 IGT video BJ machine, but I played it
once for the mail, wasn't impressed by the mail off the game, and
haven't been back. All things considered, it's kind of a marginal play
at best, but if the offers just get a little better, I'm on it. Let me
put it this way, I'm discussing a video blackjack play on an open
forum; that should give you my opinion of the play right there.
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Tony Dubnik" <tdubnik@...> wrote:
______________________________________________________________________
The wife and I received the same mailer for Sam's Town with the same $15.00 offer for replying.
Al
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----- Original Message -----
From: Pat OConnor
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 1:10 PM
Subject: RE: [vpFREE] New Suncoast Mailer
My partner and I received the same mailer from the Orleans. Same $15 in
points offer as Suncoast for answering the questionnaire.
-----Original Message-----
From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpF…@…com] On Behalf
Of Steve Del Nero
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 12:09 AM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vpFREE] New Suncoast Mailer
John and I both received a mailer from the Suncoast today. They offered
$15
in points (that's 5000 points) if we would reply to an online survey
about
local casinos. So we did it -- it took about 20 minutes to answer all
their
questions (some were rather personal about our gambling habits, but most
were about what we liked about our favorite casinos). Our questionnaire
was directed toward the Suncoast (naturally), but I wonder if we will
get
similar promotion benefits from other casinos we frequent (Stations, for
example). By the way, the promo said it would take up to seven days to
register the extra points. They were not there when we went to the
Suncoast
this evening.
-- Steve in LV
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
I would ask the folks over at bj21.com. I'd be surprised if someone
hasn't already run simulations for this.
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On 8/10/06, Tony Dubnik <tdubnik@alltel.net> wrote:
This is not about Video Poker but is about a potential advantage play I have
discovered. This concerns a blackjack game on a machine. I don't think the
machine is really advantageous on its own, but combined with promotions and
bounce back cash; it may be.My problem is this: I am looking for a blackjack game analyzer and simulator
that can handle this game. I have not been able to find one as yet. The game
MAY have a VERY slight player advantage if a composition dependent strategy
is used. The Wizard of Odds site implies this when I use the BJ calculator
there.I would welcome any help to find a suitable software program where I could
run simulations of perfect play for 2, 3, 4, and 5 cards taking into account
the dealer's up card as well as any cards already seen in the hand.I'll even post the rules:
Single deck shuffled after each hand (only 1 player per hand. This game is
on a machine)
Dealer stands on all 17
Dealer has a hole card
Tied Blackjacks are a push
Double 9, 10, 11 only
No Double after split
Split only once
Re-Hit split Aces
BJ pays 3:2
6 Card automatic winner for player but not dealer
No insurance
No surrendervpFREE Links: http://members.cox.net/vpfree/Links.htm
Yahoo! Groups Links
My blackjack program that can analyze this game.
I get a player edge of 0.108% if the 6 card automatic win only applies
when the dealer does not have a natural, and a player edge of 0.12776%
if the 6 card win applies even if the dealer has a natural. These numbers
assume a composition dependent strategy. There are about 1400 exceptions
to basic strategy, I'm sure many of them come about because of the 6 card
automatic win. This is such a large number of special cases that it would
probably be quite difficult to memorize them all.
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On Thursday 10 August 2006 2:33 pm, Tony Dubnik wrote:
This is not about Video Poker but is about a potential advantage play I
have discovered. This concerns a blackjack game on a machine. I don't think
the machine is really advantageous on its own, but combined with promotions
and bounce back cash; it may be.My problem is this: I am looking for a blackjack game analyzer and
simulator that can handle this game. I have not been able to find one as
yet. The game MAY have a VERY slight player advantage if a composition
dependent strategy is used. The Wizard of Odds site implies this when I use
the BJ calculator there.I would welcome any help to find a suitable software program where I could
run simulations of perfect play for 2, 3, 4, and 5 cards taking into
account the dealer's up card as well as any cards already seen in the hand.I'll even post the rules:
Single deck shuffled after each hand (only 1 player per hand. This game is
on a machine)
Dealer stands on all 17
Dealer has a hole card
Tied Blackjacks are a push
Double 9, 10, 11 only
No Double after split
Split only once
Re-Hit split Aces
BJ pays 3:2
6 Card automatic winner for player but not dealer
No insurance
No surrender
My blackjack program that can analyze this game.
I get a player edge of 0.108% if the 6 card automatic win only applies when
the dealer does not have a natural, and a player edge of 0.12776% if the 6
card win applies even if the dealer has a natural. These numbers assume a
composition dependent strategy. There are about 1400 exceptions to basic
strategy, I'm sure many of them come about because of the 6 card automatic
win. This is such a large number of special cases that it would probably be
quite difficult to memorize them all.<
Steve,
The dealer "peeks" in this game so you can't get 6 dards if the dealer has
BJ.
Any chance you would share your BJ program?
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-----Original Message-----
From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpF…@…com] On Behalf Of
Steve Jacobs
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 1:04 AM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] XVP - But not X advantage play
Good idea. I'll give it a try.
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-----Original Message-----
From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpF…@…com] On Behalf Of
Eric
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 11:33 PM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] XVP - But not X advantage play
I would ask the folks over at bj21.com. I'd be surprised if someone hasn't
already run simulations for this.
From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpF…@…com] On Behalf Of
Steve Jacobs
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 1:04 AM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] XVP - But not X advantage play>My blackjack program that can analyze this game.
I get a player edge of 0.108% if the 6 card automatic win only applies when
the dealer does not have a natural, and a player edge of 0.12776% if the 6
card win applies even if the dealer has a natural. These numbers assume a
composition dependent strategy. There are about 1400 exceptions to basic
strategy, I'm sure many of them come about because of the 6 card automatic
win. This is such a large number of special cases that it would probably
be quite difficult to memorize them all.<Steve,
The dealer "peeks" in this game so you can't get 6 dards if the dealer has
BJ.
OK, then the 0.108% number applies.
Any chance you would share your BJ program?
Sorry, but no. I was once foolish enough to share an alpha version of
a VP program with a few carefully selected (I thought) alpha testers, and
one of them immediately distributed it to friends in the VP community
before the ink had dried on his/her non-disclosure agreement. Largely
as a result of that, VP Oracle never made it to the marketplace.
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On Friday 11 August 2006 5:00 am, Tony Dubnik wrote:
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