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SS card

#1

I've been carrying mine with me since I was asked for it at Stardust and
told that was the only proof they would except (a few years ago). It doesn't
matter too much since my Nevada Driver's License also has it on it! But I've
been told the newer NV licence's don't carry it. Trying to keep your SS #
"secret" by not carrying it in your wallet is a losing proposition any more. My
husband's Medicare card's number is - yep - his SS #. Our health insurance
cards were the SS # last year. I've seen casinos ask for the number and
require people to have some ID with it or they couldn't claim their W2G jackpot.

So after all of that, I just carry it, and try to be very very careful not
to lose my purse (or driver's license).

When you play a lot in Vegas you are asked for your ID so often that at
times I just want to have it tattooed to my forehead! (That probably wouldn't be
sufficient for some casinos!). What really irks me is showing my ID at the
slot club for cashback, walking 10 feet over to a cashier, and needed to sign
(again) and show ID (again). All the signing is really ridiculous. Does
someone sit in a dungeon somewhere comparing signatures? And if I should drop
my cashback check during that 10 foot walk, I have serious doubts that they'd
still pay me once I report it lost (which is the reason they claim to need a
signature). Perhaps casinos are afraid of employees fraudulently cashing
cashback checks, but it just seems useless to require those double signatures to
me.

Also supposedly no one can use your SS # as an ID number - yet lots of
companies still do that - Medicare, health insurance, etc. And oodles of places
use the Last 4 Digits of your SS # -- isn't that close to the same thing? One
recently asked me to use the First 4 Digits - that was a switch.

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#2

In the 20+ years that I have been gambling in NV casinos, I have
received MANY W-2G's (including one just last weekend).

I have NEVER been asked to produce a SS card. They just ask
me to give them my SSN verbally....which I never do. I always
write it down for them....for two reasons: 1) I don't want anyone in
the casino to overhear it; 2) I want to make sure that they get it
correct on the W-2G. They always return the paper to me, so I can
destroy it myself. Sometimes, the casino has me sign a federal form
W-9 ("Request for Taxpayer Identification Number and Certification"),
which is the case for all of the W-2G's that I have received from the
Stardust.

A casino representative may *ask* you for your SS card. But, you
are not *required* to present it to them. A federal form W-9 is the
legal substitute for not furnishing an actual SS card. The casino
cannot withhold your jackpot for not furnishing a SS card to them.

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On 7/11/06, misscraps@aol.com <misscraps@aol.com> wrote:

I've been carrying mine with me since I was asked for it at Stardust and
told that was the only proof they would except (a few years
ago). It doesn't
matter too much since my Nevada Driver's License also has it on it! But
I've
been told the newer NV licence's don't carry it. Trying to keep your SS
#
"secret" by not carrying it in your wallet is a losing proposition any
more. My
husband's Medicare card's number is - yep - his SS #. Our health
insurance
cards were the SS # last year. I've seen casinos ask for the number and
require people to have some ID with it or they couldn't claim their W2G
jackpot.

So after all of that, I just carry it, and try to be very very careful not
to lose my purse (or driver's license).

When you play a lot in Vegas you are asked for your ID so often that at
times I just want to have it tattooed to my forehead! (That probably
wouldn't be
sufficient for some casinos!). What really irks me is showing my ID at
the
slot club for cashback, walking 10 feet over to a cashier, and needed to
sign
(again) and show ID (again). All the signing is really ridiculous. Does
someone sit in a dungeon somewhere comparing signatures? And if I should
drop
my cashback check during that 10 foot walk, I have serious doubts that
they'd
still pay me once I report it lost (which is the reason they claim to
need a
signature). Perhaps casinos are afraid of employees fraudulently cashing
cashback checks, but it just seems useless to require those
double signatures to
me.

Also supposedly no one can use your SS # as an ID number - yet lots of
companies still do that - Medicare, health insurance, etc. And oodles
of places
use the Last 4 Digits of your SS # -- isn't that close to the
same thing? One
recently asked me to use the First 4 Digits - that was a switch.

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#3

BTW, if you do not provide your SSN, the casinos are supposed
to withhold federal tax. This is SOP.

You will still get your jackpot, less the taxes. You will get the rest
of your jackpot when you file your federal income tax return and
report the taxes (that were withheld) and apply them to your total
tax liability for the year.

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On 7/11/06, Curtis Rich <lgtvegas@gmail.com> wrote:

In the 20+ years that I have been gambling in NV casinos, I have
received MANY W-2G's (including one just last weekend).

I have NEVER been asked to produce a SS card. They just ask
me to give them my SSN verbally....which I never do. I always
write it down for them....for two reasons: 1) I don't want anyone in
the casino to overhear it; 2) I want to make sure that they get it
correct on the W-2G. They always return the paper to me, so I can
destroy it myself. Sometimes, the casino has me sign a federal form
W-9 ("Request for Taxpayer Identification Number and Certification"),
which is the case for all of the W-2G's that I have received from the
Stardust.

A casino representative may *ask* you for your SS card. But, you
are not *required* to present it to them. A federal form W-9 is the
legal substitute for not furnishing an actual SS card. The casino
cannot withhold your jackpot for not furnishing a SS card to them.

On 7/11/06, misscraps@aol.com < misscraps@aol.com> wrote:
>
> I've been carrying mine with me since I was asked for it at Stardust and
> told that was the only proof they would except (a few years
> ago). It doesn't
> matter too much since my Nevada Driver's License also has it
> on it! But I've
> been told the newer NV licence's don't carry it. Trying to keep your
> SS #
> "secret" by not carrying it in your wallet is a losing proposition any
> more. My
> husband's Medicare card's number is - yep - his SS #. Our health
> insurance
> cards were the SS # last year. I've seen casinos ask for the number
> and
> require people to have some ID with it or they couldn't claim their W2G
> jackpot.
>
> So after all of that, I just carry it, and try to be very very careful
> not
> to lose my purse (or driver's license).
>
> When you play a lot in Vegas you are asked for your ID so often that at
> times I just want to have it tattooed to my forehead! (That probably
> wouldn't be
> sufficient for some casinos!). What really irks me is showing my ID at
> the
> slot club for cashback, walking 10 feet over to a cashier, and needed to
> sign
> (again) and show ID (again). All the signing is really ridiculous.
> Does
> someone sit in a dungeon somewhere comparing signatures? And if
> I should drop
> my cashback check during that 10 foot walk, I have serious doubts that
> they'd
> still pay me once I report it lost (which is the reason they claim to
> need a
> signature). Perhaps casinos are afraid of employees
> fraudulently cashing
> cashback checks, but it just seems useless to require those
> double signatures to
> me.
>
> Also supposedly no one can use your SS # as an ID number - yet lots of
> companies still do that - Medicare, health insurance, etc. And oodles
> of places
> use the Last 4 Digits of your SS # -- isn't that close to the
> same thing? One
> recently asked me to use the First 4 Digits - that was a switch.

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