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Spending TR credits

I understand (sort of) that going to a property and not playing, or playing a very small amount, and on the same day using some comps (even a Diamond Lounge visit), can be harmful to one’s future offers. By the way, I assume that staying off the VP machines but playing live poker with a players’ card does, in fact, register as “playing a very small amount” since live poker generates very few points, but will show that you were there. If I have any of that incorrect, please correct me.

My question is…How about going to a property and not playing, but using TR credits to, for example, “buy” a meal? Is that also harmful? I’m just curious because I have a lot of TR credits to “spend” (I know I shouldn’t be saving them up, but I
usually don’t want to “waste” them unless my wife is with me for a nice dinner, so I usually let them accumulate and use them minimally when gambling solo), and little reason to play anymore, having already earned Diamond for the year, and with no intent of going for 7 Star, and with few if any “good” machines available - so I might want to visit a property just to have a nice dinner with my wife, and not to play, or to play live poker only and no VP (or other slots).

Thanks!

–BG

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BG,

We’re in the same boat.

We’ve maintained a Diamond status for about 15 years now, and will never chase 7 Star status.

Once we accumulate the required credits for another year as Diamonds (usually sometime in August) we have the same dilemma.

We have accumulated a large # of R.C.s but are hesitant to use them on non gambling days. The same applies to Diamond lounge visits. We don’t want to be “tripped” and damage our ensuing offers, but by the same token, once we’ve reached Diamond status for another year, we would rather play our V.P. at non CET casinos that at least have 99.54% (9/6 JOB) games at something less than the $5 level.

Without our free room offers from CET and the occasional free play or free tournament buy in offers, we would abandon CET properties in a heartbeat. Of course,if we don’t play V.P. on any given day and use the Diamond Lounge or use R.C.s for a meal or even just a cup of coffee, our subsequent offers will dry up.

I guess that if CET keeps downgrading their paytables on V.P. machines, we’ll soon vote with our feet and go elsewhere for our gambling.

It’s a shame, as we travel from the Carolinas to Nevada 6 to 8 times a year and also go to a number of CET properties in other states, but I’m tired of giving up over 1 1/2 percent playing V.P. at CET properties, when I can have a fighting chance at other non CET properties and get comparable offers.

It’s a bit of a Catch 22.

Jim

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On Mar 7, 2014, at 16:43, Barry Glazer <b.gla…@…net> wrote:

I understand (sort of) that going to a property and not playing, or playing a very small amount, and on the same day using some comps (even a Diamond Lounge visit), can be harmful to one’s future offers. By the way, I assume that staying off the VP machines but playing live poker with a players’ card does, in fact, register as “playing a very small amount” since live poker generates very few points, but will show that you were there. If I have any of that incorrect, please correct me.

My question is…How about going to a property and not playing, but using TR credits to, for example, “buy” a meal? Is that also harmful? I’m just curious because I have a lot of TR credits to “spend” (I know I shouldn’t be saving them up, but I
usually don’t want to “waste” them unless my wife is with me for a nice dinner, so I usually let them accumulate and use them minimally when gambling solo), and little reason to play anymore, having already earned Diamond for the year, and with no intent of going for 7 Star, and with few if any “good” machines available - so I might want to visit a property just to have a nice dinner with my wife, and not to play, or to play live poker only and no VP (or other slots).

Thanks!

–BG

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Since “any” activity at a CET property triggers a trip, it’s probably safe to that picking up a gift (Rio) triggers a trip.
What about playing the free play voucher but not accumulating any points?
Probably know the answer but just checking. Thanks

Yes, using Reward Credits for a comp meal is going to trip you. If offers are important to you, then I would not do it But if you don’t care about offers, then go ahead. You might also want to consider converting Reward Credits to free play.

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To: vpF…@…com
From: b.gla…@…net
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 12:43:21 -0800
Subject: [vpFREE] Spending TR credits

I understand (sort of) that going to a property and not playing, or playing a very small amount, and on the same day using some comps (even a Diamond Lounge visit), can be harmful to one’s future offers. By the way, I assume that staying off the VP machines but playing live poker with a players’ card does, in fact, register as “playing a very small amount” since live poker generates very few points, but will show that you were there. If I have any of that incorrect, please correct me.

My question is…How about going to a property and not playing, but using TR credits to, for example, “buy” a meal? Is that also harmful? I’m just curious because I have a lot of TR credits to “spend” (I know I shouldn’t be saving them up, but I
usually don’t want to “waste” them unless my wife is with me for a nice dinner, so I usually let them accumulate and use them minimally when gambling solo), and little reason to play anymore, having already earned Diamond for the year, and with no intent of going for 7 Star, and with few if any “good” machines available - so I might want to visit a property just to have a nice dinner with my wife, and not to play, or to play live poker only and no VP (or other slots).

Thanks!

–BG

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In the spirit of the LVA boards: WHA???

You basically said, “if you like offers don’t spend your offers!”

Seems to me that there’s more than enough shops in town to be able to switch to others temporarily when offers go cold at one. Being worried about what “trips” you sounds rather shortsighted to me.

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On Mar 8, 2014, at 10:51 AM, kelso <kelso1…@…com> wrote:

Yes, using Reward Credits for a comp meal is going to trip you. If offers are important to you, then I would not do it But if you don’t care about offers, then go ahead. You might also want to consider converting Reward Credits to free play.


To: vpF…@…com
From: b.gla…@…net
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 12:43:21 -0800
Subject: [vpFREE] Spending TR credits

I understand (sort of) that going to a property and not playing, or playing a very small amount, and on the same day using some comps (even a Diamond Lounge visit), can be harmful to one’s future offers. By the way, I assume that staying off the VP machines but playing live poker with a players’ card does, in fact, register as “playing a very small amount” since live poker generates very few points, but will show that you were there. If I have any of that incorrect, please correct me.

My question is…How about going to a property and not playing, but using TR credits to, for example, “buy” a meal? Is that also harmful? I’m just curious because I have a lot of TR credits to “spend” (I know I shouldn’t be saving them up, but I
usually don’t want to “waste” them unless my wife is with me for a nice dinner, so I usually let them accumulate and use them minimally when gambling solo), and little reason to play anymore, having already earned Diamond for the year, and with no intent of going for 7 Star, and with few if any “good” machines available - so I might want to visit a property just to have a nice dinner with my wife, and not to play, or to play live poker only and no VP (or other slots).

Thanks!

–BG

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No, what he said was, “if you like your offers, don’t use your card for anything except on days that you would be playing anyway because you’re picking up an offer.”

Being concerned that your $5000 freeplay offers drop down to $0 because you came in everyday to eat but not play doesn’t seem shortsighted to me at all.

—In vpF…@…com, <funny.young.guy@…> wrote :

In the spirit of the LVA boards: WHA???

You basically said, “if you like offers don’t spend your offers!”

Seems to me that there’s more than enough shops in town to be able to switch to others temporarily when offers go cold at one. Being worried about what “trips” you sounds rather shortsighted to me.

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In the spirit of the LVA boards: WHA???

You basically said, “if you like offers don’t spend your offers!”

Seems
to me that there’s more than enough shops in town to be able to switch to others temporarily when offers go cold at one. Being worried about what “trips” you sounds rather shortsighted to me.

Surely you are joking! Your offers are dependent on your ADT which is determined by dividing your total worth by the number of trips over a rolling time frame of 6 to 12 months. That half-price buffet (which is really what a “free” buffet is when you pay with points you can redeem for freeplay at a 2:1 ratio) might cost you several thousand dollars in future mail offers. Almost anything you do that involves a swipe of your card (Free Valet Parking, entering many Diamond or 7-Star Lounges, Comp Redemptions and Hotel Stays, Electronic Coupon Banking or Redemptions) all initiate a trip in the TR system. Cash out your points into freeplay after you finish playing for the trip and then hit your host for discretionary comps.