If you have Winpoker (Or Frugal VP, VPTutor or Stanford Wong VP) you can
"analyze" any "hand" and it will show you the EV of any possible hold. If a
royal is inferior at 4000 coins to another play, just take the difference
between the two EV's and multiply by the number of possible results on the
RF draw (eg. 47 for a 4RF, 1081 for a 3RF, 16215 for a 2RF and 177,365 for
a stiff high card). That total added to 4,000 (the RF reset) is the point
at which the RF is the better draw.
Example: Qc, Qd, JD, TD, 2S At 9-6 jacks the QQ hold has an EV of 7.6827,
QJTs has an EV of 7.4098. The difference is 0.2729.
Multiply 0.2729 by 1,081 (possible results to a 3RF) gets about 295. Add
that to 4,000 (the base value of the RF) and 4,295 is the breakeven point
at which you would then draw to the royal. About 8 years ago I used the old
Stanford Wong software to make this calculation for all 2RF, 3RF and 4RF
hands including all the penalty card situations for 10-7 DB as in the
Chicago Area (Where I am from.) that was far and away the best play in the
area.
About three years ago, Bob Dancer did two articles on this subject in
either Casino Player or Strictly Slots.
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[Original Message]
From: eecounter <eecounter@hotmail.com>
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 11/25/2003 9:18:52 AM
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: SPECIAL STRATEGY FOR PROGRESSIVE JOB--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rafoil38" <BANDSTAND54@A...> wrote:
> Hi
>
> I was told according to Stanford Wong if you have three cards to a
> Royal and a high pair...once the jackpot reaches a certain point you
> discard the high pair and keep the three to a Royal which goes
> against the 99.54 payback strategy.
>
> Is this true?If so,at which point does this occurs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Of course it's true. For 9/6 JOB progressives, this particular
strategy change begins to happen before the Royal even reaches 5000
coins, but it depends on which 3 card Royal we are talking about, and
what penalty cards are present. For example, with a 5000 coin
jackpot, QJTs and KQJs always beat a high pair, but a high pair beats
three card Royals that include an Ace and a Ten. For the other 3
card royals, it depends on the penalty cards. At a 6000 coin
jackpot, three card royal draws always beat a high pair.> Is there any change in strategy when you are playing a high jackpot
> progressive 9/6 JOB machine?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>There are plenty of strategy changes that occur as the Royal value
increases. Any draw with royal potential (and remember that this
includes draws such as a single high card, or even a 5 card redraw)
will increase in value as the jackpot gets higher. You really need
software like WinPoker or Tomski's VP Strategy Master to help you
figure out what strategy changes to make at various jackpot levels.
I'm sure Frugal VP will do this also. But please note that you don't
have to make any strategy changes at all if you don't want to. You
can use standard 9/6 JOB strategy on progressive machines, and you
will still get some additional expected value from the higher
jackpot. But you won't realize the full potential of the progressive
machine, and you won't shorten your theoretical royal cycle. This
approach is somewhat like a card counter who always plays perfect
basic strategy and only uses the count to vary his bet. He can still
play a winning game with this approach, but he won't win as much as
someone who varies his bets AND his strategy according to the count.EE
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