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Some miscellaneous VP Questions

Both the first two posts did just that. I was just trying to shorten this
reply.
NSUD's base game is 99.7283% per Frugal, Winpoker, VPTutor, VPEXACT (only
shows three decimals)etc.
The 99.62% is probably from 16-11-800 Double Deuces (99.621% on VPEXACT).
I play a lot of NSUD but the best Super Times Pay game in the Chicago Area
(where I am from) is 9-6 jacks.
IL (now) and IN enforce a law that no game (before progressive) can be over
100% so Super Times Pay NSUD
is just barely over. (IL used to have 10-7DB with a 0.25% progressive but
not anymore.)
By the way, I got 8" of snow two days ago so I am not sorry for your
weather in LV.

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[Original Message]
From: jaydavidson118 <jaydavidson118@yahoo.com>
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 1/7/2005 2:24:28 PM
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Some miscellaneous VP Questions

Howard, I have also posted on this topic before. I believe your good
posting would be even better if you wnet back one step in your
calculation. The derivationis as follows:

average multiplyer is 4.05
multiplier appears every 15 spins, on average
(I'm doing this from memory so if the numbers are off just substitute
the correct ones)

15 spins cost 15 x 6 =90
return equals 14 x 5 + (4.05 x 5)= 90.25

90.25/90 = 18.05/18

90.25/90 x exp ret= actual exp ret

for NSUD .9964 x 90.25/90= .9992...perhaps you are using a differenct
ev for NSUD

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Howard Stern" <howard.w.stern@e...>
wrote:
> I have posted the method for calculating Super Times Pay ER twice
before.
> 18.05/18* the normal ER for the game. For NSUD that is 100.0053%.
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: vp1000mph <1000mph@m...>
> > To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
> > Date: 1/6/2005 4:07:38 PM
> > Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Some miscellaneous VP Questions
> >
> >
> >
> > Are you sure SuperTimesPay NSUD is 100.01%?
> > I've seen the paytables for SuperTimesPay and made a note to
myself
> > that there were no games offered over 100%.
> > stu
> > --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "5-card" <5-card@c...> wrote:
> > > Multi Strike NSUD are 99.92%.
> > > Super Times Pay NSUD are 100.01%
> > > 5-card
> > >
> >
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> > >
> > > What is the overall return of multistrike NSUD? (Thought this
was
> > > 100.1%)
> > >
> > > What does Super Times Pay add to the base paytable of the game
you
> > are
> > > playing? (Thought this was .27)
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This might be an opportune time to let Tom know that the STP NSUD listed in
the Chicago database for Majestic Star is incorrect. I looked for it the
last couple of visits and came up blank.

Chandler

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From: Howard Stern [mailto:howard.w.st…@…net]
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 6:39 PM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [vpFREE] Re: Some miscellaneous VP Questions

Both the first two posts did just that. I was just trying to shorten this
reply.
NSUD's base game is 99.7283% per Frugal, Winpoker, VPTutor, VPEXACT (only
shows three decimals)etc.
The 99.62% is probably from 16-11-800 Double Deuces (99.621% on VPEXACT).
I play a lot of NSUD but the best Super Times Pay game in the Chicago Area
(where I am from) is 9-6 jacks.
IL (now) and IN enforce a law that no game (before progressive) can be over
100% so Super Times Pay NSUD
is just barely over. (IL used to have 10-7DB with a 0.25% progressive but
not anymore.)
By the way, I got 8" of snow two days ago so I am not sorry for your
weather in LV.

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