Is it required to show your social security card when there is a taxable event? In the past I've had no problem showing it but with identity theft what it is nowadays, I'm a little scared. Thanks.
Robert
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Robert Pickett <robert.pickett70@...>
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In the past I've had no problem showing it but with identity theft
what it is nowadays, I'm a little scared. Thanks.
Robert
Since the State of Wisconsin has erroneously sent out tax publications
with my SS right on the front of it for 2 years in a row now, I figure
the heck with trying to keep it safe anymore. We are all doomed.
My wife's recently issued SS card came with a letter stating that she
shouldn't carry her card with her. I don't remember any such language
when mine was issued about 10 years ago (admittedly that was 10 years
ago, so my memory shouldn't be trusted too much).
JBQ
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wrote:
>
In the past I've had no problem showing it but with identity theft
what it is nowadays, I'm a little scared. Thanks.
> RobertSince the State of Wisconsin has erroneously sent out tax publications
with my SS right on the front of it for 2 years in a row now, I figure
the heck with trying to keep it safe anymore. We are all doomed.vpFREE Links: http://members.cox.net/vpfree/Links.htm
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Robert Pickett <robert.pickett70@...>
wrote:
Is it required to show your social security card when there is a
taxable event? In the past I've had no problem showing it but with
identity theft what it is nowadays, I'm a little scared. Thanks.
Robert
Maybe years ago casinos might have asked to see a SS card, but not now
(at least not any of the casinos I visit), and I get plenty of
taxables. Many people no longer carry their SS cards, so casinos would
be fighting a losing battle if they required people to show their SS
cards if they hit a taxable jackpot. They do require a valid photo ID,
and they typically ask for your SS# so they can fill in the W2-G form.
EE
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wrote:
Is it required to show your social security card when there is a
taxable event? In the past I've had no problem showing it but with
identity theft what it is nowadays, I'm a little scared. Thanks.
Robert
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Just got asked Fri. nite @ Dubuque, Ia Greyhound park. Don't know
what they'd have said if I said I didn't have it. Nicest part of
this $1203 progressive was I hit it AT EXACTLY the same time several
of my drunken relatives were whooping it up rite next to me at the
bar. I saw the bartender talking to them but didn't know what it was
about. I was intent on my VP business. As soon as I saw the 5th card
to the royal show up, I thought "well, this is gonna cost me about
$100 buying drinks for the crew". About 30 seconds later I found out
I wasn't gonna be buyin that bunch any drinks, they were cut off.
One or 2 protested slitely & the bartender informed them If they got
kicked out, it would be for life,
Pretty good weekend considering it was "family xmas" 1 25c royal, 2
25c pick-em straight flushes, 1 $1 4OAK pickem, DDB A w/ kicker and
several smaller jackpots. Unfortunately, I also imbibed a few
refreshments myself on Sat. nite & gave about $500 back in black
jack...maybe that's why I pretty much quit that game & stick to VP
<<Maybe years ago casinos might have asked to see a SS card, but not now
(at least not any of the casinos I visit), and I get plenty of
taxables. Many people no longer carry their SS cards, so casinos would
be fighting a losing battle if they required people to show their SS
cards if they hit a taxable jackpot. They do require a valid photo ID,
and they typically ask for your SS# so they can fill in the W2-G form.>>
We cover this subject at length in the tax book. It usually isn't a problem. Giving them your SS# orally (or write it down for them) usually is enough. But you need to know about Form W-9, Request for Taxpayer Identification Number and Certification. By signing this form, you are certifying, under penalties of perjury, that this is your SS number. A few casinos (mainly Indian casinos) don't seem to know about this form.
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The much-expanded new edition of my tax book,
including a new chapter on poker, is now available
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Jean-Baptiste Queru" <jbqueru@...>
wrote:
My wife's recently issued SS card came with a letter stating that she
shouldn't carry her card with her. I don't remember any such language
when mine was issued about 10 years ago (admittedly that was 10 years
ago, so my memory shouldn't be trusted too much).JBQ
Yes, do not carry your SS card, but if you are 65 or older then you
need t carry your Medicare card which has your SS number as your
account number.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "deuceswild1000" <deuceswild1000@...>
wrote:
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Jean-Baptiste Queru" <jbqueru@>
wrote:
>
> My wife's recently issued SS card came with a letter stating that she
> shouldn't carry her card with her. I don't remember any such language
> when mine was issued about 10 years ago (admittedly that was 10 years
> ago, so my memory shouldn't be trusted too much).
>
> JBQYes, do not carry your SS card, but if you are 65 or older then you
need t carry your Medicare card which has your SS number as your
account number.
Being over 65, I carry a COPY of my Medicare card which has the SS
number cut out. Have never had a problem doing this. KS
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "deuceswild1000" <deuceswild1000@>
wrote:
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Jean-Baptiste Queru" <jbqueru@>
> wrote:
> >
> > My wife's recently issued SS card came with a letter stating
that she
> > shouldn't carry her card with her. I don't remember any such
language
> > when mine was issued about 10 years ago (admittedly that was 10
years
> > ago, so my memory shouldn't be trusted too much).
> >
> > JBQ
>
>
> Yes, do not carry your SS card, but if you are 65 or older then
you
> need t carry your Medicare card which has your SS number as your
> account number.
>
Being over 65, I carry a COPY of my Medicare card which has the SS
number cut out. Have never had a problem doing this. KS
Good idea!
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "katy_2139" <ks21lv39@...> wrote:
Maybe years ago casinos might have asked to see a SS card, but not
now
(at least not any of the casinos I visit), and I get plenty of
taxables. Many people no longer carry their SS cards, so casinos
would
be fighting a losing battle if they required people to show their SS
cards if they hit a taxable jackpot. They do require a valid photo
ID,
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "eecounter" <eecounter@...> wrote:
and they typically ask for your SS# so they can fill in the W2-G form.
EE
*************************************************************
Potowatami in Milwaukee, WI, continues to require a SS card for all W2-
G events. If you don't carry yours, you must fill out a W-9 and they
withhold 35% for federal and state taxes. Count on this process taking
45 mins (minimum). The place is a sewer with very poor service, filthy
machines (many with broken buttons), and uncomfortable seating. Yet,
they continue to bring in masses of people.
Correna Correna
Ok, I don't mean to beat a dead horse, but I am leaving for vegas in a
couple of weeks. I was under the impression that I wouldn't be able
to collect a jackpot over 1200(If I'm lucky) , if I don't have my ssn card.
Are you saying I can leave that card at home and still collect the winnings
in vegas?
On 1/24/08, correna2 <correna2@yahoo.com> wrote:
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com <vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com>, "eecounter"
<eecounter@...> wrote:> Maybe years ago casinos might have asked to see a SS card, but not
now
> (at least not any of the casinos I visit), and I get plenty of
> taxables. Many people no longer carry their SS cards, so casinos
would
> be fighting a losing battle if they required people to show their SS
> cards if they hit a taxable jackpot. They do require a valid photo
ID,
> and they typically ask for your SS# so they can fill in the W2-G form.
>
> EE
*************************************************************
Potowatami in Milwaukee, WI, continues to require a SS card for all W2-
G events. If you don't carry yours, you must fill out a W-9 and they
withhold 35% for federal and state taxes. Count on this process taking
45 mins (minimum). The place is a sewer with very poor service, filthy
machines (many with broken buttons), and uncomfortable seating. Yet,
they continue to bring in masses of people.
Correna Correna
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In a word, yes. As has been stated earlier in this thread, you must have a
valid photo ID, and you will probably have to sign an additional form
attesting to the correctness of your ssn which you either stated verbally or
wrote down for the slot floorperson. But in Las Vegas (all of Nevada?) you
do not need to show the actual Social Security card. I never carry mine
with me, and I have never had a problem getting paid.
On Jan 24, 2008 8:52 AM, Susan Zelisko <szelisk@gmail.com> wrote:
Ok, I don't mean to beat a dead horse, but I am leaving for vegas in a
couple of weeks. I was under the impression that I wouldn't be able
to collect a jackpot over 1200(If I'm lucky) , if I don't have my ssn
card.
Are you saying I can leave that card at home and still collect the
winnings
in vegas?On 1/24/08, correna2 <correna2@yahoo.com <correna2%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com <vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com><vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com>, "eecounter"> <eecounter@...> wrote:
>
> > Maybe years ago casinos might have asked to see a SS card, but not
> now
> > (at least not any of the casinos I visit), and I get plenty of
> > taxables. Many people no longer carry their SS cards, so casinos
> would
> > be fighting a losing battle if they required people to show their SS
> > cards if they hit a taxable jackpot. They do require a valid photo
> ID,
> > and they typically ask for your SS# so they can fill in the W2-G form.
> >
> > EE
> *************************************************************
> Potowatami in Milwaukee, WI, continues to require a SS card for all W2-
> G events. If you don't carry yours, you must fill out a W-9 and they
> withhold 35% for federal and state taxes. Count on this process taking
> 45 mins (minimum). The place is a sewer with very poor service, filthy
> machines (many with broken buttons), and uncomfortable seating. Yet,
> they continue to bring in masses of people.
> Correna Correna
>
>
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<<Potowatami in Milwaukee, WI, continues to require a SS card for all W2-
G events. If you don't carry yours, you must fill out a W-9 and they
withhold 35% for federal and state taxes.)
They are wrong. Once you fill out the W-9 they shouldn't withhold federal tax - I'm not sure about state tax but probably not that either. But some of these Indian casinos just aren't up to snuff on federal regulations. If you play there a lot, you might want to speak to higher management!! Otherwise, arguing after you get a W-2G might just be too time-consuming.
Susan wrote: <<Are you saying I can leave that card at home and still collect the winnings
in vegas?>>
The above situation is a very rare one, usually only in small Indian casinos. In Vegas, you won't have this hassle. Just tell them your # orally (or write it on a piece of paper and give it to them) and there won't be a problem. Sometimes you might be given a W-9 form you need to fill out and sign, but usually you won't even be given that.
________________
Jean $�ott
The much-expanded new edition of my tax book,
including a new chapter on poker, is now available
to order at my Web site, http://queenofcomps.com/.
Susan Zelisko wrote:
> Ok, I don't mean to beat a dead horse, but I am leaving for vegas
> in a couple of weeks. I was under the impression that I wouldn't be
> able to collect a jackpot over 1200(If I'm lucky) , if I don't have
> my ssn card.
> Are you saying I can leave that card at home and still collect the
> winnings in vegas?
gmblnmn wrote:
In a word, yes. As has been stated earlier in this thread, you must
have a valid photo ID, and you will probably have to sign an
additional form attesting to the correctness of your ssn which you
either stated verbally or wrote down for the slot floorperson. But
in Las Vegas (all of Nevada?) you do not need to show the actual
Social Security card. I never carry mine with me, and I have never
had a problem getting paid.
That "additional" form is the W-2G that's issued to document the
reported winnings. Above your signature is a declaration that the
identifying information on the form (incl TIN) is correct.
- Harry
<<That "additional" form is the W-2G that's issued to document the
reported winnings. Above your signature is a declaration that the
identifying information on the form (incl TIN) is correct.>>
But more likely the "additional" form is a W-9, Request for Taxpayer Identification Number and Certification. You are right about signing the W-2G does the same thing, but many casinos require the additional W-9.
________________
Jean $�ott
The much-expanded new edition of my tax book,
including a new chapter on poker, is now available
to order at my Web site, http://queenofcomps.com/.
I was asked for my SS card at Harrah's Laughlin for a win this past weekend.
> Maybe years ago casinos might have asked to see a SS card, but not
now
> (at least not any of the casinos I visit), and I get plenty of
> taxables. Many people no longer carry their SS cards, so casinos
would
> be fighting a losing battle if they required people to show their SS
> cards if they hit a taxable jackpot. They do require a valid photo
ID,
correna2 <correna2@yahoo.com> wrote: --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "eecounter" <eecounter@...> wrote:
> and they typically ask for your SS# so they can fill in the W2-G form.
>
> EE
*************************************************************
Potowatami in Milwaukee, WI, continues to require a SS card for all W2-
G events. If you don't carry yours, you must fill out a W-9 and they
withhold 35% for federal and state taxes. Count on this process taking
45 mins (minimum). The place is a sewer with very poor service, filthy
machines (many with broken buttons), and uncomfortable seating. Yet,
they continue to bring in masses of people.
Correna Correna
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signing the W-2G does the same thing, but many casinos require the
additional W-9.
I have my SS# on my driver's license. Every casino, except one, has
accepted it without any other hassle.
The one casino that made me sign a W-9 was the Las Vegas Club.
Don the Dentist
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Jean Scott" <queenofcomps@...> wrote:
But more likely the "additional" form is a W-9, Request for Taxpayer
Identification Number and Certification. You are right about
Well, I guess I am going to bring it just in case.
On Jan 24, 2008 2:00 PM, Money Works <worksforthemoney@yahoo.com> wrote:
I was asked for my SS card at Harrah's Laughlin for a win this past
weekend.correna2 <correna2@yahoo.com <correna2%40yahoo.com>> wrote: --- In
vpFREE@yahoogroups.com <vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com>, "eecounter"
<eecounter@...> wrote:> Maybe years ago casinos might have asked to see a SS card, but not
now
> (at least not any of the casinos I visit), and I get plenty of
> taxables. Many people no longer carry their SS cards, so casinos
would
> be fighting a losing battle if they required people to show their SS
> cards if they hit a taxable jackpot. They do require a valid photo
ID,
> and they typically ask for your SS# so they can fill in the W2-G form.
>
> EE
*************************************************************
Potowatami in Milwaukee, WI, continues to require a SS card for all W2-
G events. If you don't carry yours, you must fill out a W-9 and they
withhold 35% for federal and state taxes. Count on this process taking
45 mins (minimum). The place is a sewer with very poor service, filthy
machines (many with broken buttons), and uncomfortable seating. Yet,
they continue to bring in masses of people.
Correna Correna---------------------------------
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I have my SS on my Nevada ID also and have never had a problem. I've
been asked for SS card many times but just say "It's on my ID." They
have always accepted this.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "dds2124" <dds6@...> wrote:
I have my SS# on my driver's license. Every casino, except one, has
accepted it without any other hassle.The one casino that made me sign a W-9 was the Las Vegas Club.
Don the Dentist
I used to have my SSN on my DL as well. IL will no longer allow you to have
your ssn it anymore.
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