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so long Sam's

#1

Things have definitely slid at Sam's. usually play about 6-8k a day. Used
to get silver card (gold ocassionally). Now just a standard 3 night room
offer. Recently put about 12k through on 2 consecutive days, with an overall
10k a day average. They wouldn't even comp the buffets that I charged to my
room, as my theo wasn't high enough. Needless to say, although Sams is my
favorite, I'm looking for a new home as well. Let me know what u think of the
Hilton. Regards, Lynne

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#2

The Hilton has gone ahead of Sam's Town on my list. I have been staying there more frequently than at Sam's Town as of late. I have been giving them a little more play,
around 10k per day and on my last trip they gave me the equivalent of a Sam's Town Silver Card when I checked in. I also had a coupon from them for $75 cash.
If I compare what a 10k per day player would receive amongst the following 3 properties... Sam's Town; Main Street Station (also a Boyd Property) and the Hilton.
Here is how I would rank them on the following items ....

Quality of rooms
1. Hilton
2. Sam's Town
3. MSS - distant third

Quality and variety of Video Poker (mainly for the quarter player).
1. Sam's Town
2. Hilton
3. MSS

Food comps
1. Hilton 2. MSS 3. Sam's Town
Really a virtual tie here, MSS has a slightly better buffet than the Hilton, Sam's Town buffet Sucks.
Hilton coffee shop is very close to the California in quality, both are a little better than Sam's Town.
Sam's Town has a great Mexican restaurant, Mss has the brewpub, and I haven't tried the Mexican at the Hilton.

Cash Back
1. MSS (includes scratch cards)
2. Hilton
3. Sam's Town (unless you are there on one of their 6x points weekends)

Casino Hosts
1. MSS - friendly and accessible
2. Hilton - Haven't used them, everything I have required has been given automatically.
3. Sam's Town - completely useless - I would rather visit my dentist.

I have tried to be as objective as possible here.

Regards
A.P.

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----- Original Message -----
  From: harmonlynn@aol.com
  To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 3:44 AM
  Subject: Re: [vpFREE] so long Sam's

  Things have definitely slid at Sam's. usually play about 6-8k a day. Used
  to get silver card (gold ocassionally). Now just a standard 3 night room
  offer. Recently put about 12k through on 2 consecutive days, with an overall
  10k a day average. They wouldn't even comp the buffets that I charged to my
  room, as my theo wasn't high enough. Needless to say, although Sams is my
  favorite, I'm looking for a new home as well. Let me know what u think of the
  Hilton. Regards, Lynne

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#3

My beef with Hilton is its isolated location. At least with Sam's Town - you dont really need a car , since they have the best casino shuttle system in Vegas. How does one get around without a car at the Hilton? Do they have a shuttle, is the monorail up and running?
How much are taxis to downtown, is there a bus stop outside?

regards...Tom

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Albert Pearson" <a-p@sympatico.ca>
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 12:35 PM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] so long Sam's

The Hilton has gone ahead of Sam's Town on my list. I have been staying there more frequently than at Sam's Town as of late. I have been giving them a little more play,
around 10k per day and on my last trip they gave me the equivalent of a Sam's Town Silver Card when I checked in. I also had a coupon from them for $75 cash.
If I compare what a 10k per day player would receive amongst the following 3 properties... Sam's Town; Main Street Station (also a Boyd Property) and the Hilton.
Here is how I would rank them on the following items ....

Quality of rooms
1. Hilton
2. Sam's Town
3. MSS - distant third

Quality and variety of Video Poker (mainly for the quarter player).
1. Sam's Town
2. Hilton
3. MSS

Food comps
1. Hilton 2. MSS 3. Sam's Town
Really a virtual tie here, MSS has a slightly better buffet than the Hilton, Sam's Town buffet Sucks.
Hilton coffee shop is very close to the California in quality, both are a little better than Sam's Town.
Sam's Town has a great Mexican restaurant, Mss has the brewpub, and I haven't tried the Mexican at the Hilton.

Cash Back
1. MSS (includes scratch cards)
2. Hilton
3. Sam's Town (unless you are there on one of their 6x points weekends)

Casino Hosts
1. MSS - friendly and accessible
2. Hilton - Haven't used them, everything I have required has been given automatically.
3. Sam's Town - completely useless - I would rather visit my dentist.

I have tried to be as objective as possible here.

Regards
A.P.

----- Original Message ----- From: harmonlynn@aol.com
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 3:44 AM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] so long Sam's

Things have definitely slid at Sam's. usually play about 6-8k a day. Used
to get silver card (gold ocassionally). Now just a standard 3 night room
offer. Recently put about 12k through on 2 consecutive days, with an overall
10k a day average. They wouldn't even comp the buffets that I charged to my
room, as my theo wasn't high enough. Needless to say, although Sams is my
favorite, I'm looking for a new home as well. Let me know what u think of the
Hilton. Regards, Lynne

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#4

dentist.

Just give me a call :slight_smile:

Don the Dentist

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Albert Pearson" <a-p@s...> wrote:

3. Sam's Town - completely useless - I would rather visit my

#5

tomflush wrote:

My beef with Hilton is its isolated location. At least with Sam's Town - you
dont really need a car , since they have the best casino shuttle system in
Vegas. How does one get around without a car at the Hilton? Do they have a
shuttle, is the monorail up and running?

Tom;
The monorail has been up and running since Christmas eve, making LV Hilton quite accessible.
Skip

#6

Just wanted to thank you for your post, this type of information is
very useful for those of us that are still exploring "new"
casinos.

The Hilton has gone ahead of Sam's Town on my list. I have been

staying there more frequently than at Sam's Town as of late. I have
been giving them a little more play,

around 10k per day and on my last trip they gave me the equivalent

of a Sam's Town Silver Card when I checked in. I also had a coupon
from them for $75 cash.

If I compare what a 10k per day player would receive amongst the

following 3 properties... Sam's Town; Main Street Station (also a
Boyd Property) and the Hilton.

Here is how I would rank them on the following items ....

Quality of rooms
1. Hilton
2. Sam's Town
3. MSS - distant third

Quality and variety of Video Poker (mainly for the quarter player).
1. Sam's Town
2. Hilton
3. MSS

Food comps
1. Hilton 2. MSS 3. Sam's Town
Really a virtual tie here, MSS has a slightly better buffet than

the Hilton, Sam's Town buffet Sucks.

Hilton coffee shop is very close to the California in quality,

both are a little better than Sam's Town.

Sam's Town has a great Mexican restaurant, Mss has the brewpub, and

I haven't tried the Mexican at the Hilton.

Cash Back
1. MSS (includes scratch cards)
2. Hilton
3. Sam's Town (unless you are there on one of their 6x points

weekends)

Casino Hosts
1. MSS - friendly and accessible
2. Hilton - Haven't used them, everything I have required has been

given automatically.

3. Sam's Town - completely useless - I would rather visit my

dentist.

I have tried to be as objective as possible here.

Regards
A.P.

  From: harmonlynn@a...
  To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 3:44 AM
  Subject: Re: [vpFREE] so long Sam's

  Things have definitely slid at Sam's. usually play about 6-8k a

day. Used

  to get silver card (gold ocassionally). Now just a standard 3

night room

  offer. Recently put about 12k through on 2 consecutive days,

with an overall

  10k a day average. They wouldn't even comp the buffets that I

charged to my

  room, as my theo wasn't high enough. Needless to say, although

Sams is my

  favorite, I'm looking for a new home as well. Let me know what

u think of the

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Albert Pearson" <a-p@s...> wrote:

  ----- Original Message -----
  Hilton. Regards, Lynne

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

#7

and I haven't tried the Mexican at the Hilton.

Cash Back
1. MSS (includes scratch cards)
2. Hilton
3. Sam's Town (unless you are there on one of their 6x points

weekends)

The Hilton Mexican restaurant is pretty average, IMO. It may be true
that the MSS scratchers put it over the Hilton where CB is concerned,
but I have found that the Hilton offers some pretty valuable
promotions and now apparently BB for the tourist that may make it a
better play. This assumes that resorts does not kill or water down
the value of the promotions that have been offered in the past.

Chandler

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Albert Pearson" <a-p@s...> wrote:

#8

Thanks for your evaluation. Very informative.

For an objective accessment of Sam's Town buffet, see day 4 of my
recent trip report.
http://www.lasvegastripreport.com/display_tr.php3?tr_id=2246
It really is horrible!!!

Regarding ST, just use them for the free room mailers when you're in
a pinch. It's nice to stay at a place with pretty much no
requirements. They'll keep sending the monthlies as long as you keep
your account active.

The Hilton has gone ahead of Sam's Town on my list. I have been

staying there more frequently than at Sam's Town as of late. I have
been giving them a little more play,

around 10k per day and on my last trip they gave me the equivalent

of a Sam's Town Silver Card when I checked in. I also had a coupon
from them for $75 cash.

If I compare what a 10k per day player would receive amongst the

following 3 properties... Sam's Town; Main Street Station (also a
Boyd Property) and the Hilton.

Here is how I would rank them on the following items ....

Quality of rooms
1. Hilton
2. Sam's Town
3. MSS - distant third

Quality and variety of Video Poker (mainly for the quarter player).
1. Sam's Town
2. Hilton
3. MSS

Food comps
1. Hilton 2. MSS 3. Sam's Town
Really a virtual tie here, MSS has a slightly better buffet than

the Hilton, Sam's Town buffet Sucks.

Hilton coffee shop is very close to the California in quality,

both are a little better than Sam's Town.

Sam's Town has a great Mexican restaurant, Mss has the brewpub, and

I haven't tried the Mexican at the Hilton.

Cash Back
1. MSS (includes scratch cards)
2. Hilton
3. Sam's Town (unless you are there on one of their 6x points

weekends)

Casino Hosts
1. MSS - friendly and accessible
2. Hilton - Haven't used them, everything I have required has been

given automatically.

3. Sam's Town - completely useless - I would rather visit my

dentist.

I have tried to be as objective as possible here.

Regards
A.P.

  From: harmonlynn@a...
  To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 3:44 AM
  Subject: Re: [vpFREE] so long Sam's

  Things have definitely slid at Sam's. usually play about 6-8k a

day. Used

  to get silver card (gold ocassionally). Now just a standard 3

night room

  offer. Recently put about 12k through on 2 consecutive days,

with an overall

  10k a day average. They wouldn't even comp the buffets that I

charged to my

  room, as my theo wasn't high enough. Needless to say, although

Sams is my

  favorite, I'm looking for a new home as well. Let me know what

u think of the

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Albert Pearson" <a-p@s...> wrote:

  ----- Original Message -----
  Hilton. Regards, Lynne

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#9

The LV Hilton is served by the #108 which goes to/from the airport and downtown (stops are on paradise road). Down the street there is the #112 that runs from convention center to paradise to D.I., and there is a monorail stop in front of the property.

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From: Skip Hughes <skiphughes@earthlink.net>
Reply-To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] so long Sam's
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:39:32 -0800

tomflush wrote:

> My beef with Hilton is its isolated location. At least with Sam's Town
> - you
> dont really need a car , since they have the best casino shuttle
> system in
> Vegas. How does one get around without a car at the Hilton? Do they
> have a
> shuttle, is the monorail up and running?

Tom;
The monorail has been up and running since Christmas eve, making LV
Hilton quite accessible.
Skip

#10

The #108 also goes from Paradise Road in front of the Hilton to Downtown and the other direction to the airport.

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From: Skip Hughes <skiphughes@earthlink.net>
Reply-To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] so long Sam's
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:39:32 -0800

tomflush wrote:

> My beef with Hilton is its isolated location. At least with Sam's Town
> - you
> dont really need a car , since they have the best casino shuttle
> system in
> Vegas. How does one get around without a car at the Hilton? Do they
> have a
> shuttle, is the monorail up and running?

Tom;
The monorail has been up and running since Christmas eve, making LV
Hilton quite accessible.
Skip