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Sneaky Paytable Changes

On some older (pre Game King) IGT games with more than ten different pay lines the pay table was often incomplete. When the Indiana Ameristar was a Harrah's they had double bonus with only the quads and up pay table on the machine itself. I complained to the management and the people that responded did not understand what a vp paytable should look like. (These were 9-6-5 which is of course terrible for $1 as $1 9-6 Jacks and 9-5 SDB were in banks right next to these.) These older IGT games came with a decal that was supposed to be across the top of the glass showing the rest of the paytable. Harrah's and Empress (Both Joliet IL) had these. The former was 9-7-5 and the later 10-7-5. I also saw these many years ago in LV as well but they always had the decal.

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-----Original Message-----
From: mikeymic
Sent: Aug 4, 2009 11:56 AM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Sneaky Paytable Changes

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgshook" <rgold79@...> wrote:

This made me laugh and laugh. The pay table is (by law) posted in full for you to review. You being too lazy to review a full table is not "marketing" (whatever that means, because marketing or casino marketing departments would have nothing to do with setting pay tables on video poker machines) being "crooked" - it's just you being too lazy to look at the full pay table before you sat down.

The reduction of the 4k payout (5's-K's) on this 9/7 TDB machine from 250 to 200 has quite a damaging effect. The return is reduced from 99.57% all the way down to 97.99%. It is actually a poorer game choice than 9/6 TDB. I may not be smart, but I sure ain't dumb enough to choose a VP machine with that kind of return again. Especially at the $5 level.

I'm not sure I agree with your use of the word "lazy". Many of us have become conditioned to check the FH/FL payouts. I think it is valid to assume marketing knows we do that and appreciates the manufacturer making paytable changes "elsewhere".

But I will accept that taking that 1 1/2% hit the other night was my own fault. And it will definitely cause me to be more diligent about examining the ENTIRE paytable in the future.