Smoking Bans

[Barry_Glazer]

3b. Re: Smoking Bans - WAS Jean Scott's Frugal Vegas BLOG - 13 JAN 2008
Posted by: "mickeycrimm" mickeycrimm@yahoo.com mickeycrimm
Date: Fri Jan 18, 2008 9:51 am ((PST))

It's called social drinking. My IQ goes up 10 points with every
drink. Why would I want to drink alone where nobody can tell how
smart I've become?

This answer explains a lot

How weird is this? You would think a booze hound like me who just
happens to spend about 300 days per year gambling in casinos would
get thousands of dollars per year in comped alcoholic beverages.
WRONG!!! I'm a stone cold teetotaler when playing machines or live
poker. I don't want to see the stuff when I'm working. And it's not
out of any conviction about gambling and drinking. I simply can't
stand to drink when I'm working, and I can't stand to work when I'm
drinking.

Interestingly, it sounds like you don't LIKE to drink and play at the same time -- for me, it's a playing decision -- I know that alcohol impairs people, and have no reason to assume I'm a special exception, and I don't want to make mistakes while playing, especially when I might not even realize I'm making them - so I don't drink alcohol while playing - anything - unless the game is a no-brainer. When I was younger, a friend and I used to go into the bacarrat pit, when the limits were much lower, and make off-setting bets of the minimum amount, me on the bank and him on the player -- thus assuring we'd pay about 0.5% (or whatever the commission was on wins) of our action --- and then we'd drink as much as we could get them to bring us. Drinks cost us tips and the 0.5%, and half the fun was that this was not very well received in the stuffy baccarat pit.

I don't know why idiot slobs like me have all the luck in the world.
I've been smoking for 42+ years. I've been a booze hound for just
about as many years. I was drinking in bars by the time I was 15. I
down shots and chase it with beer like it is nothing. I eat all the
stuff that is not good for you. I'm pushing 55 years old but I can
still get out and walk 5 to 10 miles a day with ease. I do it at
least a few times a week. And to this day I've never been to a
Doctor. How do you go to see a Doctor? I have no clue.

My 55 y.o. brother-in-law is the same way - a life of smoking, eating, drinking, and riding motorcycles as much as he wants, without any consequences. Don't worry about how to get to the doctor, they'll take you the way they took him - in a helicopter and/or ambulance - when he finally had his heart attack last summer.

--BG

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[Mickey]

Interestingly, it sounds like you don't LIKE to drink and play at

the same time -- for me, it's a playing decision -- I know that
alcohol impairs people, and have no reason to assume I'm a special
exception, and I don't want to make mistakes while playing,
especially when I might not even realize I'm making them - so I don't
drink alcohol while playing - anything - unless the game is a no-
brainer. When I was younger, a friend and I used to go into the
bacarrat pit, when the limits were much lower, and make off-setting
bets of the minimum amount, me on the bank and him on the player --
thus assuring we'd pay about 0.5% (or whatever the commission was on
wins) of our action --- and then we'd drink as much as we could get
them to bring us. Drinks cost us tips and the 0.5%, and half the fun
was that this was not very well received in the stuffy baccarat pit.

I'm in action so much that I don't consider it playing. I consider
it to be working. If I'm drinking while working then I'm drinking on
the job. Most people don't drink on the job. I guess I'm from that
mold.

As far as hustling drinks goes, it's any easy thing to do in
casinos. Take downtown LV. Just go to a bar in one of the casinos,
get the bartender's attention, pull out a roll of bills, peel off a
benjamin and stick it in the machine--in full view of the bartender--
while orderiing your drink. Then set the machine on the lowest denom
and bet one coin at a time.

Vegas bartenders are trained to size you up. If you put your money
in the machine before the bartender gets to you, you will notice that
when he/she does come over they will be looking down at the machine
while taking your order to see if you are playing, what denom you are
playing, and how many credits you have. This is to determine if you
are a sucker or a hustler.

They get all kinds of hustlers trying to take them off so it's a
precaution they use. This is why you should prefer the technique of
letting them see your bankroll and the big bill you put in the
machine. You are now a sucker in their eyes and they don't think
twice before fetching you the drink.

After the bartender delivers the drink and gets busy elswhere hit the
cashout button and make your exit. When you finish your drink just
stop off at the next bar and pull the same trick. You'll be drunker
than a pig in no time at a cost of a couple of bucks.

My 55 y.o. brother-in-law is the same way - a life of smoking,

eating, drinking, and riding motorcycles as much as he wants, without
any consequences. Don't worry about how to get to the doctor,
they'll take you the way they took him - in a helicopter and/or
ambulance - when he finally had his heart attack last summer.

--BG

My Great Uncle Alvin chain-smoked Prince Albert in a Can. Rolled
them up himself. He was a very unceremonious drinker. He would just
open the jug and start chugging. He was a disgrace to my highly
religious Grandmother, his little sister.

One morning they found Uncle Alvin dead at his house. My Grandfather
went to investigate. When he got back he reported to my Grandmother
that there was a huge pile of whiskey bottles in the backyard.

My Grandmother looked at me while shaking her head and said "The poor
man drank and smoked himself to death."

He was only 89 years old. What a shame.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, b.glazer@... wrote:

[deuceswild1000]

>
> Interestingly, it sounds like you don't LIKE to drink and play at
the same time -- for me, it's a playing decision -- I know that
alcohol impairs people, and have no reason to assume I'm a special
exception, and I don't want to make mistakes while playing,
especially when I might not even realize I'm making them - so I

don't

drink alcohol while playing - anything - unless the game is a no-
brainer. When I was younger, a friend and I used to go into the
bacarrat pit, when the limits were much lower, and make off-setting
bets of the minimum amount, me on the bank and him on the player --
thus assuring we'd pay about 0.5% (or whatever the commission was

on

wins) of our action --- and then we'd drink as much as we could get
them to bring us. Drinks cost us tips and the 0.5%, and half the

fun

was that this was not very well received in the stuffy baccarat pit.
>
>
>

I'm in action so much that I don't consider it playing. I consider
it to be working. If I'm drinking while working then I'm drinking

on

the job. Most people don't drink on the job. I guess I'm from

that

mold.

As far as hustling drinks goes, it's any easy thing to do in
casinos. Take downtown LV. Just go to a bar in one of the

casinos,

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mickeycrimm" <mickeycrimm@...> wrote:

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, b.glazer@ wrote:
get the bartender's attention, pull out a roll of bills, peel off a
benjamin and stick it in the machine--in full view of the bartender-

-

while orderiing your drink. Then set the machine on the lowest

denom

and bet one coin at a time.

Vegas bartenders are trained to size you up. If you put your money
in the machine before the bartender gets to you, you will notice

that

when he/she does come over they will be looking down at the machine
while taking your order to see if you are playing, what denom you

are

playing, and how many credits you have. This is to determine if

you

are a sucker or a hustler.

They get all kinds of hustlers trying to take them off so it's a
precaution they use. This is why you should prefer the technique

of

letting them see your bankroll and the big bill you put in the
machine. You are now a sucker in their eyes and they don't think
twice before fetching you the drink.

After the bartender delivers the drink and gets busy elswhere hit

the

cashout button and make your exit. When you finish your drink just
stop off at the next bar and pull the same trick. You'll be

drunker

than a pig in no time at a cost of a couple of bucks.

>
>
>
> My 55 y.o. brother-in-law is the same way - a life of smoking,
eating, drinking, and riding motorcycles as much as he wants,

without

any consequences. Don't worry about how to get to the doctor,
they'll take you the way they took him - in a helicopter and/or
ambulance - when he finally had his heart attack last summer.
>
> --BG
>

My Great Uncle Alvin chain-smoked Prince Albert in a Can. Rolled
them up himself. He was a very unceremonious drinker. He would

just

open the jug and start chugging. He was a disgrace to my highly
religious Grandmother, his little sister.

One morning they found Uncle Alvin dead at his house. My

Grandfather

went to investigate. When he got back he reported to my

Grandmother

that there was a huge pile of whiskey bottles in the backyard.

My Grandmother looked at me while shaking her head and said "The

poor

man drank and smoked himself to death."

He was only 89 years old. What a shame.

Well my Uncle died at age 53 from an unstoppable nose bleed while in
a drunken stupor. Why was it unstoppable? No liver left. He
drank 13 bottles of Drewrys a day minimum (baker's dozen at the local
party store) and basically remained sober. It was the week long
benders that would knock him silly, until he was nearly starving to
death from not eating. Then he would sober up and get something to
eat.

He smoked also, but that was the least of his problems. Always
figured he would burn himself up, but somehow he managed to put out
his cigarette before he would fall asleep.

Quite sad!