"billchute2" <billchute2@...> wrote:
Does anyone know where percent of return on slot
machines in indian casinos in So CA can be found?
Native American casinos are not required to report slot payout percentages.
Slot machine payback %
FWIW
If you mean current or actual per cent returns that information
may not be available. However, the minimum returns is available in Arizona and might also be available in California.
The following information is from the web site of the Arizona Department of Gaming.
http://www.gm.state.az.us/machines.htm
"Gaming Compacts
Arizona Tribal-State Gaming Compacts took effect in 1993. In 2001, terms of the current Compacts with 21 Arizona Tribes were successfully negotiated for State regulation of approved Class III gaming activities on Tribal lands in Arizona. The Compacts (or agreements) contain detailed regulatory, technical, and internal control standards for the operation of Indian gaming. The Compacts last for ten years and can be renewed for one term of ten years and one additional term of three years."
"Odds of Winning
During the expected lifetime of a gaming device the Tribal-State Gaming Compact requires that each game shall theoretically pay out
a minimum of 80% for games requiring no skill, such as slot machines; 83% for games requiring some skill, such as video poker; and 75% for keno video games. The highest single advertised award on each gaming device shall occur statistically at least once in every 50,000,000 plays."
It also states "The maximum number of slot machines allowed in any casino is 1,301, and there is a wager limit of $29 per play for most tribes."
That might mean the largest single original wager on slots, video poker or video keno machines is limited to $29. I know newer "group"
video craps and video blackjack machines only allow a $29 original wager.
However, I know from experience, that "original wager" might also
be a key. Although the following experience might have been a
result of this particular tribe not being a part of "most tribe" statement made on the web site.
I know at one particular Arizona Native American casino you can continue to "let your original wager ride" on a video blackjack machine. This was on a older single line IGT machine that also
had a video blackjack game. These machines allowed one to "let it ride" long enough to get a "W2G.
An original $10 bet can go to a $640 bet using the "let it ride"
feature ($10, $20, $40, $80, $160, $320 and $640) If you win this
7th straight bet using the "let it Ride" feature all along, you
will get a W2G for winning $1200 or more. In this example you actually only won $640 but on a machine this does not matter. The "hand pay employees" said a table a bet of $640 would not generate
a W2G. The key was that this was a machine. I do not know this as
a fact. I have never made, or witness, a bet of $600 or greater
at a live blackjack table at this casino.
You can get to over $1,200 with fewer than 7 straight winning hands with some earlier "double downs", or "blackjacks" winning hands in
a streak. A $320 hand (6th bet) could be a hand that blackjack strategy calls for a "double down".
I witness this happen on video blackjack machine in Arizona. The player receive a 6 and a 5. It was against a dealer up card of a
10. The player did not hesitate to double down. This increased the bet to $640 on the 6th hand. The player did receive a high card
for a 21. The dealer other card happened to be another 10 count
card for a dealer 20. The machine lock up for a hand pay at $1,200
or more.
That particular Native American casino now does a hand pay at $300.
The machine will locks up at that point making a $1,200 or more
(W2G reportable win now impossible.
Bob
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--- In vpFREE_California@yahoogroups.com, st.tropez97@... wrote:
> "billchute2" <billchute2@> wrote:
>
> Does anyone know where percent of return on slot
> machines in indian casinos in So CA can be found?Native American casinos are not required to report slot payout percentages.