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slot club question

I have a few questions I was hoping the group could help me with:

1 - If my wife and I are both members of a slot club. Does it make
more sense to both play on our own cards, or simply throw out one of
our cards, and both play under one name when we play? Is this even
allowed? It would seem to me to both play under one card is better,
because some sort of "slightly higher roller" perks might kick in.
Am I right in thinking this way? This is a generic question for all
slot clubs, but perhaps this is better to do at some casinos but not
others. Does anyone know for sure?

2 - I've seen in A.C. some 9/6 Jacks machines that offer two royals,
both the normal one, and 2/3/4/5/6 suited. They both pay the
standard 4000 coins. Can someone tell me the expected long term
return on a game like this? Unfortunately, I've only seen it on
nickel machines, but it still might be fun.

3 - Is there any place on the Net that I can find a free strategy
guide to Pick 'Em vider poker. I know it's a very simple game, but
I'm one of those people who likes to know the optimal plays and stuff
like that.

Thanks very much in advance, and best of luck to everybody!

John

<<I have a few questions I was hoping the group could help me with:

1 - If my wife and I are both members of a slot club. Does it make
more sense to both play on our own cards, or simply throw out one of
our cards, and both play under one name when we play? Is this even
allowed? It would seem to me to both play under one card is better,
because some sort of "slightly higher roller" perks might kick in.
Am I right in thinking this way? This is a generic question for all
slot clubs, but perhaps this is better to do at some casinos but not
others. Does anyone know for sure?>>

My wife and I give most of our play on one card. This approach definitely
improved our AC room/comp offers.

<<2 - I've seen in A.C. some 9/6 Jacks machines that offer two royals,
both the normal one, and 2/3/4/5/6 suited. They both pay the
standard 4000 coins. Can someone tell me the expected long term
return on a game like this? Unfortunately, I've only seen it on
nickel machines, but it still might be fun.>>

The return on High/Low Royal is 99.8%. I believe you are referring to
machines in Trump Plaza. This game is also on one of their $.25 multi-game
pickems (end machine on isle).

<<3 - Is there any place on the Net that I can find a free strategy
guide to Pick 'Em vider poker. I know it's a very simple game, but
I'm one of those people who likes to know the optimal plays and stuff
like that.>>

John, if you are serious at all about VP play I would strongly recommend
purchasing a program such as Video Poker Strategy Master. You can easily
generate and print your own strategy charts on just about any game/pay table
out there. I purchased mine from www.zamzone.com.

Ed

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-----Original Message-----
From: john_chinnock [mailto:chinn…@…com]

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1 - If my wife and I are both members of a slot club. Does it make
more sense to both play on our own cards

Depends on many things, but mostly on how much play you plan to
give a particular casino, and how that amount of play relates to
their comp system.

3 - Is there any place on the Net that I can find a free strategy
guide to Pick 'Em vider poker.

http://www.lvcm.com/tomesims/VP/CD/C_PK.html

<a href="http://www.lvcm.com/tomesims/VP/CD/C_PK.html">
http://www.lvcm.com/tomesims/VP/CD/C_PK.html</a>

vpFREE Administrator

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On 12 Apr 2003 at 16:57, john_chinnock wrote:

The administrator already gave you the best answer to your main
question, which is "it depends". But let me elaborate just a bit.

Certainly if you are staying at the casino right now and you are
trying to put enough play on your card to get your room comped, or
get a meal comped, etc., then it makes sense to put all of your play
at that particular time on one card, because you'll meet the
requirements twice as fast - assuming you are both playing pretty
much equivalent amounts. On the other hand, a host may take a look
at both you and your wife's play when evaluating whether or not to
give you something (especially a room comp), so even under these
fairly simple circumstances there is no hard and fast rule.

For bounceback offers, it's harder to say. Personally, I would think
that playing on two different cards works better more often than
putting all of your combined play on one card. For example, if you
play at low levels, you may find that you only qualify for something
like one $5 bounceback coupon per month. If you both play on the
same card, you may still only qualify for the same $5 per month.
Better to keep your play separate and at least get two sets of $5
coupons per month instead of only one. At the other end of the
spectrum, if you play at high levels, each of you may easily put in
enough play each month to qualify for the top tier of offers from the
casino. After you reach that point, you are facing diminishing
returns. Again under these circumstances it is better to keep your
play separate so that both you and your wife can each get the top
tier of offers.

It's in the area between these two extremes where things get tricky.
Sometimes, a little extra play will result in a whopping big increase
in bounceback offers, which would support the "all play on one card"
argument. It helps if you know the play requirements for the
different tiers of coupon offers from the casino, and what those
offers consist of. Then, you could make a good informed decision.
Unfortunately, the casinos are not always so generous about giving
you this information. Often it will require some experimentation
(over several months time), along with talking to other players, to
get a handle on what works best at a particular casino.

EE

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "john_chinnock" <chinnock@h...> wrote:

I have a few questions I was hoping the group could help me with:

1 - If my wife and I are both members of a slot club. Does it make
more sense to both play on our own cards, or simply throw out one of
our cards, and both play under one name when we play? Is this even
allowed?