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Slot Card Pulling Habit

#1

Do any of you regulars habitually Pull out your slot card after the
deal, before you draw, in order to mask your winnings from big
brother Casino? (and are you willing to chat about it? lol)

The "pros" I have chatted with DO pull their cards on dealt quads and
some other dealt hands. I occasionally pull my card, but I'm
thinking that this is unnecessarily paranoid.

Certainly on 4 part RF's, it is silly to pull your card: if you hit
it, they will have your ID and I assume they will record this hand-
pay into your account record. In fact, it may be a give-away that you
are a card-puller if they were to notice no card in the machine or
notice no electronic record was generated (if you slid your card back
in before the attendant arrived).

I remember one time I pulled my card on a dealt trip A's, playing $1
DDB. I hit the 4th, no kicker, for an $800 hand-pay. When the
attendant returned with the cashier for the hand-pay, he greeted me
BY NAME! I was rattled by this, maybe that's where my paranoia comes
from. Thinking back, he COULD have seen my name on the display while
I played the adjacent machine (during The Wait). I don't remember if
I was playing this adjacent machine. But he ALSO could have seen my
name as the player on the winning machine log on The Computer, right
up until one hand prior to the payoff. Hmmmmmm.

I also noticed when I requested and received my yearly account
history for last year, from my favorite casino, that hand-pays were
listed separately. I have a pretty good record of my hand pays THIS
YEAR, so I will be checking the account printout early next year, to
see the correlation. I MAY have pulled my card on as many as ten hand-
pays this year, none last year.

Anyhow, there's some grist for the mill, anyone want to share their
own philosophy??

Cheers,
Mark P.

p.s. maybe it's time to work on my own Pen-name. Let's see, Dancer,
taken. Singer, taken. Mark Laugher. sounds good. nyuk nyuk.

#2

How about Mark Puller? :slight_smile:

Funny how this slot cards work. When you are playing and something
happens displaying CARD ERROR, they don't bother to come and tell
you "You are missing a lot of points earned. Re-insert your card
properly you get credited.".

But when you pull out your card after a dealt fairly good hand...it's
like that movie "They Know What You Did Last Summer".

Maybe you can try something to make it look more consistent like:
even on a poorly dealt hand, pull out your card occasionally (say
maybe every 50 or so draw) and pretend you are checking out your
total points earned. Then when you are dealt that good hand and you
still pretend that you are just double checking how many points you
have earned so far....

Sorry, no other idea since I have not done this at all.
Gilbert

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <mark_my_words_again@y...>
wrote:

Do any of you regulars habitually Pull out your slot card after the
deal, before you draw, in order to mask your winnings from big
brother Casino? (and are you willing to chat about it? lol)

The "pros" I have chatted with DO pull their cards on dealt quads

and

some other dealt hands. I occasionally pull my card, but I'm
thinking that this is unnecessarily paranoid.

Certainly on 4 part RF's, it is silly to pull your card: if you hit
it, they will have your ID and I assume they will record this hand-
pay into your account record. In fact, it may be a give-away that

you

are a card-puller if they were to notice no card in the machine or
notice no electronic record was generated (if you slid your card

back

in before the attendant arrived).

I remember one time I pulled my card on a dealt trip A's, playing

$1

DDB. I hit the 4th, no kicker, for an $800 hand-pay. When the
attendant returned with the cashier for the hand-pay, he greeted me
BY NAME! I was rattled by this, maybe that's where my paranoia

comes

from. Thinking back, he COULD have seen my name on the display

while

I played the adjacent machine (during The Wait). I don't remember

if

I was playing this adjacent machine. But he ALSO could have seen my
name as the player on the winning machine log on The Computer,

right

up until one hand prior to the payoff. Hmmmmmm.

I also noticed when I requested and received my yearly account
history for last year, from my favorite casino, that hand-pays were
listed separately. I have a pretty good record of my hand pays

THIS

YEAR, so I will be checking the account printout early next year,

to

see the correlation. I MAY have pulled my card on as many as ten

hand-

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pays this year, none last year.

Anyhow, there's some grist for the mill, anyone want to share their
own philosophy??

Cheers,
Mark P.

p.s. maybe it's time to work on my own Pen-name. Let's see, Dancer,
taken. Singer, taken. Mark Laugher. sounds good. nyuk nyuk.

#3

Some years ago, before the card system became very sophisticated, I
was friendly with a casino exec and he told me that they KNOW when
people pull cards, they KNOW that those people are trying to fool both
them and the IRS and they KNOW that if that person would ask for a
discretionary comp or service that they would be DENIED.

That was one exec in one casino. Cannot say for sure what other
casinos think but I am told that Hard Rock HATES it when you get free
play and do not insert your card, that the Palms hates it when you get
free play without your card, etc.

I do NOT know of anyone being asked to leave because of it, so I guess
that if it makes you happy, do it. On the other hand, I have seen
cards pulled for a dealt 2 pair and that seems ridiculous.

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On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:06:49 -0000, you wrote:

Do any of you regulars habitually Pull out your slot card after the
deal, before you draw, in order to mask your winnings from big
brother Casino? (and are you willing to chat about it? lol)

The "pros" I have chatted with DO pull their cards on dealt quads and
some other dealt hands. I occasionally pull my card, but I'm
thinking that this is unnecessarily paranoid.

Certainly on 4 part RF's, it is silly to pull your card: if you hit
it, they will have your ID and I assume they will record this hand-
pay into your account record. In fact, it may be a give-away that you
are a card-puller if they were to notice no card in the machine or
notice no electronic record was generated (if you slid your card back
in before the attendant arrived).

I remember one time I pulled my card on a dealt trip A's, playing $1
DDB. I hit the 4th, no kicker, for an $800 hand-pay. When the
attendant returned with the cashier for the hand-pay, he greeted me
BY NAME! I was rattled by this, maybe that's where my paranoia comes
from. Thinking back, he COULD have seen my name on the display while
I played the adjacent machine (during The Wait). I don't remember if
I was playing this adjacent machine. But he ALSO could have seen my
name as the player on the winning machine log on The Computer, right
up until one hand prior to the payoff. Hmmmmmm.

I also noticed when I requested and received my yearly account
history for last year, from my favorite casino, that hand-pays were
listed separately. I have a pretty good record of my hand pays THIS
YEAR, so I will be checking the account printout early next year, to
see the correlation. I MAY have pulled my card on as many as ten hand-
pays this year, none last year.

Anyhow, there's some grist for the mill, anyone want to share their
own philosophy??

Cheers,
Mark P.

p.s. maybe it's time to work on my own Pen-name. Let's see, Dancer,
taken. Singer, taken. Mark Laugher. sounds good. nyuk nyuk.

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