Howdy
In desperation to explain my Guiness Book of Records horrendous losing streak I thought of a probably crazy reason this is happening. The question is...Is it possible a slot card can be programmed to affect the RNG on a given machine or specific?game?
This would be a clever way to fleece the player. I know I am grasping at straws but then again I am not exactly a computer wiz!
Grumpy
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Yes you can alter machines with programming code. However, I don't think
the casino's would even want to try that with anyone. First, they could
lose their license and secondly, I'm sure its tracable.
Keep smiling, your losing streak will end soon!!
On 5/29/08, BANDSTAND54@aol.com <BANDSTAND54@aol.com> wrote:
Howdy
In desperation to explain my Guiness Book of Records horrendous losing
streak I thought of a probably crazy reason this is happening. The question
is...Is it possible a slot card can be programmed to affect the RNG on a
given machine or specific?game?This would be a clever way to fleece the player. I know I am grasping at
straws but then again I am not exactly a computer wiz!Grumpy
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Hi!
Sure! All sorts of things can be done via software "changes". However, in my opinion, if the
modification changes the RNG so that it is no longer a RNG, all sorts of violations are being
committed. No casino in LV would take a chance on doing that.
..... bl
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, BANDSTAND54@... wrote:
Howdy
The question is...Is it possible a slot card can be programmed to affect the RNG on a
given machine or specific game?Grumpy
BANDSTAND54 wrote:
The question is...Is it possible a slot card can be programmed to
affect the RNG on a given machine or specific?game?This would be a clever way to fleece the player.
Yes. It's commonly known that this can also be defeated with a tin
foil hat or wrist band.
From: BANDSTAND54@AOL.COM <BANDSTAND54@AOL.COM>
Subject: [vpFREE] Slot Card Conspiracy ?
To: acvpp@yahoogroups.com
Cc: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, May 29, 2008, 4:44 AM
HowdyIn desperation to explain my Guiness Book of Records
horrendous losing streak I thought of a probably crazy
reason this is happening. The question is...Is it possible
a slot card can be programmed to affect the RNG on a given
machine or specific?game?
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Uumm, no.
But, a little known fact is the FBI, NSA, and CIA regularly use this technology to track terrorist suspects. Rememeber, many of the perpetrators of 9-11 spent a lot of time in Vegas before the attacks. Had this technology been in place pre 9-11 we may have been able to avert this terrible tragedy, not to mention avoid the whole Iraq mess that followed. (See Scott McClellan's new book for confirmation of this - it comes out Saturday.)
This of course assumes they actually used their slot cards when they played. This is a bug in the system - and the main reason most of the bigger casinos will soon go to retina scanning to identify you - for slot club purposes only, of course.
Hope that slump ends soon. Oh yeah, have you tried heavy drinking to counter the effects of the slump? Works every thime for me. In fact, I get liquored up before and during each session just as a precaution - you never know when a nasty slump will rear it's ugly head!
Cheers!
Jigger Woodruff
"On some days, my head is filled with such wild and original thoughts
that I can barely utter a word. On other days, the liquor store is
closed."
"The closest I ever got to a 4.0 in school was my blood alcohol content."
"Sex is like air. It's not important unless you aren't getting any."
"Ever notice that people who spend money on beer,
cigarettes, and video poker are always complaining
about being broke and not feeling well?"
"I live in my own little world, but it's ok, they know me here"
All sorts of things can be done via software "changes". However, in
my opinion, if the
modification changes the RNG so that it is no longer a RNG, all
sorts of violations are being
committed. No casino in LV would take a chance on doing that.
The chances of getting caught are slim. American Coin got caught, the
people involved can't work in Nevada anymore, but they got jobs at
other casinos in other states, presumably their talents are in demand.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "bornloser1537" <bornloser1537@...> wrote:
That is fascinating. Please cite sources.
At 11:43 AM 5/29/2008, you wrote:
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "bornloser1537" <bornloser1537@...> wrote:
> All sorts of things can be done via software "changes". However, in
my opinion, if the
> modification changes the RNG so that it is no longer a RNG, all
sorts of violations are being
> committed. No casino in LV would take a chance on doing that.The chances of getting caught are slim. American Coin got caught, the
people involved can't work in Nevada anymore, but they got jobs at
other casinos in other states, presumably their talents are in demand.
It doesn't take much googling to find the full story- there's even an
A&E TV episode about it:
Here's a synopsis:
1990 Las Vegas American Coin Fixed Video Poker Conspiracy
Las Vegas Sun: November 06, 1997 Arrest made in '90 murder; warrant
issued for second man.
"American Coin, at the time, was the state's fourth largest slot
route operator, with more than 1,000 machines in various Las Vegas
locations. The company was charged with altering 300 machines." "After
Volk told authorities of the computer chip scam at American Coin, the
company was closed and the gaming licenses of the owners -- Rudolph
and Rudy M. LaVecchia and Frank Romano -- were surrendered in a deal
that required them to pay a $1 million fine to the state in the
February 1990 deal."
Larry Volk, the programmer of the fixed computer chip (ROM), was found
shot dead, execution style, after agreeing to testify in the case.
See also Comdex '99: The mysterious death of Larry Volk, Las Vegas
Review Journal.
~M
--- Bill Coleman <vphobby2@...> wrote:
That is fascinating. Please cite sources.
> "bornloser1537" <bornloser1537@> wrote:
> > All sorts of things can be done via software "changes".
> However, in my opinion, if the
> > modification changes the RNG so that it is no longer a RNG, all
>sorts of violations are being
> > committed. No casino in LV would take a chance on doing that.
>
>The chances of getting caught are slim. American Coin got caught, the
>people involved can't work in Nevada anymore, but they got jobs at
>other casinos in other states, presumably their talents are in demand.
>
That's well known. The fascinating part is the contention that the people responsible went to work for other casinos
At 03:24 PM 5/29/2008, you wrote:
It doesn't take much googling to find the full story- there's even an
A&E TV episode about it:Here's a synopsis:
1990 Las Vegas American Coin Fixed Video Poker Conspiracy
Las Vegas Sun: November 06, 1997 Arrest made in '90 murder; warrant
issued for second man.
"American Coin, at the time, was the state's fourth largest slot
route operator, with more than 1,000 machines in various Las Vegas
locations. The company was charged with altering 300 machines." "After
Volk told authorities of the computer chip scam at American Coin, the
company was closed and the gaming licenses of the owners -- Rudolph
and Rudy M. LaVecchia and Frank Romano -- were surrendered in a deal
that required them to pay a $1 million fine to the state in the
February 1990 deal."
Larry Volk, the programmer of the fixed computer chip (ROM), was found
shot dead, execution style, after agreeing to testify in the case.See also Comdex '99: The mysterious death of Larry Volk, Las Vegas
Review Journal.~M
--- Bill Coleman <vphobby2@...> wrote:
>
> That is fascinating. Please cite sources.
>> > "bornloser1537" <bornloser1537@> wrote:
> > > All sorts of things can be done via software "changes".
> > However, in my opinion, if the
> > > modification changes the RNG so that it is no longer a RNG, all
> >sorts of violations are being
> > > committed. No casino in LV would take a chance on doing that.
> >
> >The chances of getting caught are slim. American Coin got caught, the
> >people involved can't work in Nevada anymore, but they got jobs at
> >other casinos in other states, presumably their talents are in demand.
> >
>------------------------------------
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That's well known. The fascinating part is the contention that the
people responsible went to work for other casinos>It doesn't take much googling to find the full story- there's even
an
>A&E TV episode about it:
>
>Here's a synopsis:
>1990 Las Vegas American Coin Fixed Video Poker Conspiracy
>Las Vegas Sun: November 06, 1997 Arrest made in '90 murder; warrant
>issued for second man.
> "American Coin, at the time, was the state's fourth largest slot
>route operator, with more than 1,000 machines in various Las Vegas
>locations. The company was charged with altering 300
machines." "After
>Volk told authorities of the computer chip scam at American Coin,
the
>company was closed and the gaming licenses of the owners -- Rudolph
>and Rudy M. LaVecchia and Frank Romano -- were surrendered in a
deal
>that required them to pay a $1 million fine to the state in the
>February 1990 deal."
>Larry Volk, the programmer of the fixed computer chip (ROM), was
found
>shot dead, execution style, after agreeing to testify in the case.
>
>See also Comdex '99: The mysterious death of Larry Volk, Las Vegas
>Review Journal.
>
>~M
There was a book published on this a few years ago. The name escapes
me but maybe someone can help me out.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Bill Coleman <vphobby2@...> wrote:
At 03:24 PM 5/29/2008, you wrote:
But the contention was that they all found jobs in casinos outside Nevada with the implication that machines there are gaffed. That's the first I've heard of that, I thought it was a closed case. So I ask for citations on THAT, not the basic story that is all very well known.
At 05:31 PM 5/29/2008, you wrote:
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Bill Coleman <vphobby2@...> wrote:
>
> That's well known. The fascinating part is the contention that the
> people responsible went to work for other casinos
>
> At 03:24 PM 5/29/2008, you wrote:
> >It doesn't take much googling to find the full story- there's even
an
> >A&E TV episode about it:
> >
> >Here's a synopsis:
> >1990 Las Vegas American Coin Fixed Video Poker Conspiracy
> >Las Vegas Sun: November 06, 1997 Arrest made in '90 murder; warrant
> >issued for second man.
> > "American Coin, at the time, was the state's fourth largest slot
> >route operator, with more than 1,000 machines in various Las Vegas
> >locations. The company was charged with altering 300
machines." "After
> >Volk told authorities of the computer chip scam at American Coin,
the
> >company was closed and the gaming licenses of the owners -- Rudolph
> >and Rudy M. LaVecchia and Frank Romano -- were surrendered in a
deal
> >that required them to pay a $1 million fine to the state in the
> >February 1990 deal."
> >Larry Volk, the programmer of the fixed computer chip (ROM), was
found
> >shot dead, execution style, after agreeing to testify in the case.
> >
> >See also Comdex '99: The mysterious death of Larry Volk, Las Vegas
> >Review Journal.
> >
> >~MThere was a book published on this a few years ago. The name escapes
me but maybe someone can help me out.------------------------------------
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Sorry, my mistake, I was mixing it up with the rigged Venetian
drawing. I think the people involved with American Coin are either
dead or out of the country, none served any jail time for the crime,
isn't that correct?
But the contention was that they all found jobs in casinos outside
Nevada with the implication that machines there are gaffed. That's
the first I've heard of that, I thought it was a closed case. So I
ask for citations on THAT, not the basic story that is all very well
known.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Bill Coleman <vphobby2@...> wrote:
At 05:31 PM 5/29/2008, you wrote:
>--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Bill Coleman <vphobby2@> wrote:
> >
> > That's well known. The fascinating part is the contention that the
> > people responsible went to work for other casinos
> >
> > At 03:24 PM 5/29/2008, you wrote:
> > >It doesn't take much googling to find the full story- there's even
>an
> > >A&E TV episode about it:
> > >
> > >Here's a synopsis:
> > >1990 Las Vegas American Coin Fixed Video Poker Conspiracy
> > >Las Vegas Sun: November 06, 1997 Arrest made in '90 murder; warrant
> > >issued for second man.
> > > "American Coin, at the time, was the state's fourth largest slot
> > >route operator, with more than 1,000 machines in various Las Vegas
> > >locations. The company was charged with altering 300
>machines." "After
> > >Volk told authorities of the computer chip scam at American Coin,
>the
> > >company was closed and the gaming licenses of the owners -- Rudolph
> > >and Rudy M. LaVecchia and Frank Romano -- were surrendered in a
>deal
> > >that required them to pay a $1 million fine to the state in the
> > >February 1990 deal."
> > >Larry Volk, the programmer of the fixed computer chip (ROM), was
>found
> > >shot dead, execution style, after agreeing to testify in the case.
> > >
> > >See also Comdex '99: The mysterious death of Larry Volk, Las Vegas
> > >Review Journal.
> > >
> > >~M
>
>There was a book published on this a few years ago. The name escapes
>me but maybe someone can help me out.
>
>
>
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You are dating yourself Harry. Nowadays one must use aluminum foil!
Also a magnetic necklace works also.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Harry Porter" <harry.porter@...> wrote:
BANDSTAND54 wrote:
> The question is...Is it possible a slot card can be programmed to
> affect the RNG on a given machine or specific?game?
>
> This would be a clever way to fleece the player.Yes. It's commonly known that this can also be defeated with a tin
foil hat or wrist band.