All $5/$25 machines short all normal 250 coin pays to 239.
8-5 Super Aces Quad 5s thru Ks
10-6 DDB - Quad 5s thru Ks anf SF
9-6 Jacks - SF
8-5 Bonus - SF
No ligit 8-5 Super Aces at Trump
Also note that the only reason to short these at $25 is to screw the
player. You will get the W2G and of course a FH on $25 10-6 DDB will do
likewise!
--- In vpFREE_Chicago@yahoogroups.com, "Howard Stern"
<howard.w.stern@e...> wrote:
All $5 machines short all normal 250 coin pays to 239.
8-5 Super Aces Quad 5s thru KsNo ligit 8-5 Super Aces at Trump
Also note that the only reason to short these at $25 is to screw the
player.
I have never played in IN, but if they hold out 3% in state tax, the
Super Aces ends up almost identical whether the payout is 250 or 239
on a $5 game.
8-5-239 8-5-250 -3% on W2s
EV=99.09% EV=99.19%
with the 239 you dont get a W2, which is attractive for some/most
players and speeds up your play since you can expect 4 5-Ks about
every 600 hands, or about once every hour. With the 250 coin payout
you only net $17.50 after the 3%. It does depend on how the
particular state handles the tax, in MO they hold out 4%, but you can
get some/all of it back. In MS they hold out 3% and you have no
chance to get any of it back. I am under the impression that IN is
like MS. ??
I dont normally play $5 VP, but do like 8-5 Super Aces, I imagine you
would need quite a bankroll for a $5 game due to the volitility.
Jim