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Skip Hughes

#1

People also need to separate the person from the video poker crap. I did that here, and I do it all the time when I meet people from vpFREE who don't exactly see things in vp as I do.
From what I remember Bob, most vpmail members would have liked to have me come in and debate them & Skip rather than me just being called names. It's always bothered me about Skip that he would rather just hate me than talk to me.

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--- On Tue, 6/2/09, Bob Sommer - Top of the World Coins <NL7HT@barrow.com> wrote:

From: Bob Sommer - Top of the World Coins <NL7HT@barrow.com>
Subject: Re: [FREEvpFREE] Skip Hughes
To: FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 8:38 PM

The really sad part of the story is that it is true. I saw it happen.
I was part of Skip's group even before he starting charging money for
it. I still have my group pin.

Bob

Dolores Flynn wrote:

I have to say that this is the lowest post I have ever read.

Maisse

On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 11:03 PM, Rob Singer <robsinger1111@ yahoo.com > <mailto:robsinger11 11%40yahoo. com>> wrote:

> I got a message today from one of my e-newsletter members telling me
that
> Skip was going thru something like Patrick Swayze is. I don't know
how true
> that is, but I do know Skip's been MIA for quite a while. I wish him
> comfort---with whatever's happening.
>
> For obvious reasons Skip never liked me or anything I've done or
said, and
> he wasn't and still isn't shy about it. He chose to be my "enemy"
when all
> we're talking about here is video poker. He chose to lie, slander
and libel
> me whenever he had the opportunities, and multiple times I and I
think once
> or twice, CF tried to get me be a speaker at one of his meetings. But he
> didn't want me to get any of his attention and instead, wanted to
continue
> bad-mouthing me without interruption.
>
> He absolutely HATED when my book was published by a LV house that
was and
> still is a respected business in the gaming world, and he absolutely
HATED
> the fact that after he & Dancer were fired from Gaming Today, I was
sought
> out and brought on for 7-1/2 straight years as their vp columnist--and
> finishing up last year as their most popular columnist ever. Plus
they did
> it for (what else?) PAY and I wrote everything FOR FREE. Not my
problem he
> needs to charge people ridiculous fees to receive an e-newsletter or
visit
> his site. Not my problem he needs to market whatever he can for
income. Not
> my problem he can't win at video poker. He should have listened to
me way
> back when and he wouldn't have needed to turn into what he did.
>
> When a player such as myself wins so much when so many so-called
"experts"
> cannot, it irks them. I understand that because I used to hate
winners too
> when I was a losing "advantage player", but again, it's ONLY video
poker. If
> you just don't have anything else that's way more interesting going
on in
> your life, you're really quite the failure. But Skip is one of the
few who
> chose to take it all to a personal level over the years. I've never
> understood his obsession with me, and I don't miss that at all.
>
>
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#2

I believe the majority would of liked to have had that debate but Skip
ran the group with an iron hand and would not allow it. He seemed to
take it personal and his mind was made up no matter what anyone said. I
do not know if any conclusion would of come from a debate, but not
having it we would never know, and most people, to this day, still only
believe that there is only one way to play VP, and that anything that
departs from what the VP Gods say, is evil. What bullshit.

I have been playing VP since 1980 when I was living in Reno. I have
studied the game a long time, and listened to all side and ideas. No
one has a corner on the truth and I have found nuggets of good playing
ideas from many people. But to dismiss an idea out of hand because you
do not happen to like someone is not right. I have met the majority of
the VP Gods that still ply their trade and are still active and I do not
think much of them, but then I also know some of the nasty stuff that
went on in the late 80's and early-mid 90's.

I have to say that there are some very nice people that I have met over
the years that subscribe to the VP Gods theories but I could never be
apart of that group again. For Skip it was always "my way" or the
highway. I wound up on the highway after he kicked me out a year after
he started charging. I assumed at the time that my questions and ideas
must of threatened him. But I look at it as having saved a lot of
money. I could reference lots of things that have happened to Skip's
group and the people in it over the years that they do not like to talk
about, but what's the point.

I do wish Skip well and hold no anger towards him. Skip is Skip. I
truly hope he does get well and returns. After all, who would I have to
complain and argue about. Come to think of it, I do know a couple of
others that sell lots of VP junk.

Bob

Rob Singer wrote:

People also need to separate the person from the video poker crap. I
did that here, and I do it all the time when I meet people from vpFREE
who don't exactly see things in vp as I do.
>From what I remember Bob, most vpmail members would have liked to
have me come in and debate them & Skip rather than me just being
called names. It's always bothered me about Skip that he would rather
just hate me than talk to me.

From: Bob Sommer - Top of the World Coins <NL7HT@barrow.com
<mailto:NL7HT%40barrow.com>>
Subject: Re: [FREEvpFREE] Skip Hughes
To: FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FREEvpFREE%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 8:38 PM

The really sad part of the story is that it is true. I saw it happen.
I was part of Skip's group even before he starting charging money for
it. I still have my group pin.

Bob

Dolores Flynn wrote:
>
>
> I have to say that this is the lowest post I have ever read.
>
> Maisse
>
>
> > I got a message today from one of my e-newsletter members telling me
> that
> > Skip was going thru something like Patrick Swayze is. I don't know
> how true
> > that is, but I do know Skip's been MIA for quite a while. I wish him
> > comfort---with whatever's happening.
> >
> > For obvious reasons Skip never liked me or anything I've done or
> said, and
> > he wasn't and still isn't shy about it. He chose to be my "enemy"
> when all
> > we're talking about here is video poker. He chose to lie, slander
> and libel
> > me whenever he had the opportunities, and multiple times I and I
> think once
> > or twice, CF tried to get me be a speaker at one of his meetings.
But he
> > didn't want me to get any of his attention and instead, wanted to
> continue
> > bad-mouthing me without interruption.
> >
> > He absolutely HATED when my book was published by a LV house that
> was and
> > still is a respected business in the gaming world, and he absolutely
> HATED
> > the fact that after he & Dancer were fired from Gaming Today, I was
> sought
> > out and brought on for 7-1/2 straight years as their vp columnist--and
> > finishing up last year as their most popular columnist ever. Plus
> they did
> > it for (what else?) PAY and I wrote everything FOR FREE. Not my
> problem he
> > needs to charge people ridiculous fees to receive an e-newsletter or
> visit
> > his site. Not my problem he needs to market whatever he can for
> income. Not
> > my problem he can't win at video poker. He should have listened to
> me way
> > back when and he wouldn't have needed to turn into what he did.
> >
> > When a player such as myself wins so much when so many so-called
> "experts"
> > cannot, it irks them. I understand that because I used to hate
> winners too
> > when I was a losing "advantage player", but again, it's ONLY video
> poker. If
> > you just don't have anything else that's way more interesting going
> on in
> > your life, you're really quite the failure. But Skip is one of the
> few who
> > chose to take it all to a personal level over the years. I've never
> > understood his obsession with me, and I don't miss that at all.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
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> >
> > vpFREE Links: http://members. cox.net/vpfree/ Links.htm
> <http://members. cox.net/vpfree/ Links.htm>
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
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>
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--- On Tue, 6/2/09, Bob Sommer - Top of the World Coins > <NL7HT@barrow.com <mailto:NL7HT%40barrow.com>> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 11:03 PM, Rob Singer <robsinger1111@ yahoo.com > > <mailto:robsinger11 11%40yahoo. com>> wrote: