--- In FREEvpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "robsinger1111"
<robsinger1111@...> wrote:
> As far as I can tell they are all still playing ">100% plays".
That's right....as far as you can tell. They make up those plays
each
visit as if they were valid and payable the day they play, and you
buy into that BS lock, stock & barrel. Ever hear of PHANTOM BUCKS??
Many, many of my readers have written GT with great admiration of
how
I expose all you phonies with it.
You only "expose" your own ignorance and math skills. I can only
imagine your mouth watering over anyone dumb enough to write to GT.
Since
> casinos have changed their approach the BEST gamblers adjust as
> needed to achieve maximum benefit. From what you have been saying
you are too stupid to figure this out.
You mean "ADJUST" as in going back on their word to NEVER play a
standalone <100% machine? HAHAHA please keep it up. Watching you
squirm here as you try to defend them, and in the process, your own
severe addiction to play as they do, is precious indeed.
ROTFLMAO. Notice how Robbie starts screaming "addiction" whenever he
has nothing intelligent to say. Let me explain what "adjust" means.
Try to pay attention since you obviously are having problems. A
single machine paying pack 101.6% is almost as good as a machine
paying back 99.6% with added cashback and/or bounceback of 2%. The
machine isn't quite as good because the CB/BB is a guaranteed win
each and every day. So, the FACT is the 101.6% play is better today
than it was before. Now, I know it's difficult for you to understand
this Robbie, so try to take your time.
> As long as "slot club value" is identical to CASH then only a
> complete moron would avoid them. I guess we know where this puts
> little Robbie.
Who's avoiding them. I merely point out how they and you are all
liars and that it's impossible for any of you to keep their word
and
quit the game if +100% games STANDALONE disappear. All they're
doing
with their new dance is insulting players' intelligence everywhere
by
thinking they're getting away with their newfound magical formula,
and that's why I'm all too happy to expose you, them, and any
others
who try to get away with it. Any wonder why Gaming Today is
thrilled
over my latest guru-bashing...and how they just LOVE my instant
truthful interpretation & expose' of how the Queen tried so hard to
make it up as she goes. These are truly GREAT TIMES!
Your not "exposing" anything but your own stupidity. Only a moron
would not understand the current PLAY is better than it used to be.
I'm sure when whomever said they wouldn't play machines less than
100% there was no such thing as 2-4% CB/BB. I also challenge you to
show a quote where the term "STANDALONE" was used. I suspect you made
that up.
> Your lies only serve to make you look foolish. As long as an
> individual's net results are positive, which is exactly what Jean
> stated unambiguously, then who cares where the money comes from?
Of
> course, we all know Rob is a long term loser so whatever he says
> means next to nothing.
That's right Dick, show us your wounds over this as you writhe in
obvious P-A-I-N! Tell us why she doesn't just "add in" airline
miles
and hotel points to pad her results even more! After all Mr.
Wizard....who cares where the freebie-value comes from??
Like I said, she stated unambiguously that she only added in CASH
value. You've already ignored this several times which makes it
apparent to everyone that you are simply LYING.
As for myself, I could have claimed an extra $5K worth of wins last
year, but I ONLY count amount won + CB + BB + cash equivalent prizes
(e.g. gas cards). This is exactly how Jean phrased her approach. I
suppose the next thing your going to tell us is that the gas I bought
with those gas cards has no value.
> What part of cashback, freeplay and bounceback cash don't you
> understand?
Exactly. I get that stuff and it in no way is ever used - nor
SHOULD
it be used - to pad results. And tell me you or none of the others
greatly exposed fools don't apply overwhelming value to anything
else
coming from the slot clubs just to create a winning year out of
guru-
thin air. Even the novices on vpFREE who eat from the Queen's hand
realize you all do that.
I noticed you had problems understanding my example below. The reason
the CB/BB SHOULD be used to determine results is that often one's
results will be BETTER overall. You're stating the equivalent of a
foolish waitress ignoring her tips and only counting her wages as
income. With this approach the foolish waitress would have no reason
to provide good service. Of course, a good waitress who moves up to a
fancy restaurant and collects big tips could go without any salary
and make more money than the foolish waitress who ignores tips.
Understanding all available income and maximizing it is what
intelligent people do. They leave the crying to the morons like you
who don't understand the big picture.
You really
> think you can convince someone that when the cashier hands me a
> couple of benjis for my cashback that it somehow different than
if
it was a TITO voucher?
You're main problem is you think everyone who reads your nonsense
was
born yesterday. You make believe you somehow beat the machines
after
losing just because some cashier hands you a few hundred dollars.
Wining or losing, money is money, CASH=CASH.
But
what you block out is that the casino roped you in to play with
that
benefit and you are too weak-kneed to just say no and save your
money. I've got a credit card that gives cash back. Maybe I'll
start
thinking about adding that in to my results so you'll have to be
irritated by reading about even higher winnings!
Getting cash from a credit card is also real cash and reduces the
cost of whatever merchandise was purchased. In the case of CB/BB the
cost of the merchandise is LESS than the CB/BB. So, if your credit
card returned MORE money than you paid for the items wouldn't you
consider that +EV?
> No spin required. CASH=CASH. The fact you keep harping on
something
> so simple a caveman could understand is evidence that you will
stoop to almost any level to push your con. I guess you figure that
if someone believes your BS they will be an easy mark.
I've got some cash here. How about we meet up at your favorite
machine and I'll hand you over a hundred bucks. What you're saying
is
anything of value obtained when sitting at a machine--regardless
where it originates from--is profit. And WHO's the moron??
You. By the way, that is EXACTLY what I'm saying. As it turns out I
had another winning year last year just considering the machines. So,
the CB/BB was all gravy and turned out to be SIGNIFICANTLY more than
I won.
So, let's say I won $5K last year and collected $20K in CB/BB. Now,
what if I had lost $5K instead of winning $5K, would that have made
me a net loser? Of course not, I still would be $15K ahead for the
year.
Now, what if I had played machines where I SHOULD lose $5K every year
but the casino doubles my CB/BB. I would be ahead $35K in that case
instead of the $30K I won by playing the positive ER machines. This
is really quite simple. I would be fool to play the better machines
and cost myself $5K every year
> Let's see if Robbie can figure this one out. I had a choice this
> weekend of playing a triple play BP progressive at Fiesta which
> probably had an average return for the 4 hours I played of 99.8%
or
I could have played the FPDW with a return of 100.7%. By Robbie's
> illogic the only choice would be the FPDW. I guess that's why he
had to give up advantage gambling.
No I can't figure that out because FPDW means a no-play to me since
it can't be beaten in the short term without a Royal. And saying
the
BP progressive was a "99.8% play" while you were there is bogus and
misleading, and is the main reason I so easily rip you and other to
shreds whenever you spew such baloney. 99.8% applies to tens of
millions of perfectly played hands--or even more. You math people
can't even get together on THAT aspect of how to define your
compulsion.
LMAO. I think "no, I can't figure that out" is about all we needed to
hear. BTW, I used 99.8% "play" because the ER of a progressive
changes as the RFes go up in value (or down). The value was the
average ER over the time I played. Since BP is a pretty low variance
game it would never take "tens of millions" of hands to achieve that
ER. In fact, most of us will approach that ER after only a few
hundred thousand hands.
> For the rest of us with simple math skills, here's what's
important.
> The deuces game has a sticker limiting points to 1 for each $4
> gambled. The BPP was full points (1-1). The key factor was I was
> receiving 10x points which added a CASH value to the BPP of 1.67%
but
> only .42% for the FPDW. So, the actual return was 101.47% for the
BPP
> and 101.2 for the FPDW. In addition, since the BPP was 3-play I
could
> earn that 1.5% edge at nearly 12 times the rate of the FPDW and
> therefore accrue more points towards my monthly BB goal.
All you're doing now is rambling while getting some kind of sicko
adrenalin rush as you reach for straws to explain away your BS. You
don't see....or FEEL that?
Here's what I "see". An extra $180 CB while also winning $950. I know
it bothers you to see us APers successfully winning year after year
after you failed. However, demonstrating such complete stupidity will
only make you look worse in the eyes of those you so clearly ENVY.
> Oh, and lest I forget, I ended up $950 ahead for those 4 hours of
> play even without considering the $180 of free play that I will
pick up in the future and the BB cash I will receive next month.
Since you didn't comment on this previously I can only conclude your
eyes teared up so much that it forced you to stop.