If any topic becomes disruptive on vpFREE, I'll take whatever
measures are necessary to eliminate the disruption, on a short
and/or long term basis.
vpFREE Administrator
On 27 Feb 2003 at 14:41, Rhonda Jacobs wrote:
bad move, he doesn't "moderate" well. and its inevitable that the
"old" rob singer discussions erupt. Frankly, I don't like to hear his
crap or discussions about his "system" and winning ways thats why I
joined vpfree.
OK, now Mr. Singer has my email address and just decided to send me a nasty
private email. And you want this man to participate in this forum?
\
> bad move, he doesn't "moderate" well. and its inevitable that the
> "old" rob singer discussions erupt. Frankly, I don't like to hear his
> crap or discussions about his "system" and winning ways thats why I
> joined vpfree.If any topic becomes disruptive on vpFREE, I'll take whatever
measures are necessary to eliminate the disruption, on a short
and/or long term basis.vpFREE Administrator
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At 11:52 AM 2/27/2003 -0800, you wrote:
On 27 Feb 2003 at 14:41, Rhonda Jacobs wrote:
OK, now Mr. Singer has my email address and just decided to send me a
nasty private email. And you want this man to participate in this forum?<<
If true, that is unfortunate. But RS could have had your email address at
any time by lurking or even participating under various aliases, as many
here assume he has for quite some time. Better to let him participate useing
his own name, for a change. <g>
And remember, he will be fully moderated if and when he participates. I'd be
very willing to leave it to Tom to determine in a reasonable and
non-emotional way when a post has crossed the line.
lb
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--vpfree posts: about even--
but how are people suppose to speak freely when now its obvious he will
just take his nasty comments off-line? thus by-passing moderation and just
sending people private emails to clutter up their in-boxes
>>OK, now Mr. Singer has my email address and just decided to send me a
nasty private email. And you want this man to participate in this forum?<<If true, that is unfortunate. But RS could have had your email address at
any time by lurking or even participating under various aliases, as many
here assume he has for quite some time. Better to let him participate useing
his own name, for a change. <g>And remember, he will be fully moderated if and when he participates. I'd be
very willing to leave it to Tom to determine in a reasonable and
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At 12:58 PM 2/27/2003 -0800, you wrote:
It's not where RS got Rhonda's address that's important. It's what he
does with it. This particular problem with RS (there are a host of
others) is that he has habitually responded with ugly to vicious
private emails to people who have had the gall to disagree with his
transcendental visions. It is quite likely that all of us who post
with any regularity will draw critical public responses to something
of what we write. That's an expected and normal part of the give and
take. What is not normal (nor expected) is to find that your private
email box has suddenly been filled with RS garbage.
I don't like it when posters go off the deep end in the public forum
and substitute name-calling for discussion as all too often happens.
The latest business about moderation level on this list, I think, was
a result of a multiple-headed thread that began when a list member
called me an "idiot." A number of posters responded to the offender
(I thank you all for your defense), and the thread from hell ensued.
My response was to remain silent. It's always seemed to me to be
counter productive to get into these matters, even when you have your
very own, personal dog in the fight.
History argues rather clearly that RS will abuse those who fall under
his sights on both the public and private levels. Rhonda's experience
should serve as a clarion warning.
Pete
Playing vp in LV for over 15 years and actually winning 
>>OK, now Mr. Singer has my email address and just decided to send
me a
nasty private email. And you want this man to participate in this
forum?<<
If true, that is unfortunate. But RS could have had your email
address at
any time by lurking or even participating under various aliases, as
many
here assume he has for quite some time. Better to let him
participate useing
his own name, for a change. <g>
And remember, he will be fully moderated if and when he
participates. I'd be
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Lawrence Boxer" <ljboxer@e...> wrote:
very willing to leave it to Tom to determine in a reasonable and
non-emotional way when a post has crossed the line.lb
--JOB: about even--
--DW: about even--
---BP: about even--
--vpfree posts: about even--
Rhonda, I am sorry to report that you should be concerned. Singer went
after me because I exposed him as a fraud on vpheaven. Singer commissioned
an investigation of me and found out details that I didn't even know! He
knew my new office telephone number even before I did. He sent me Christmas
card and made it clear that he knew not only where I lived and worked but
where my daughter lived. Now this does not concern me since I once had a
guy take out a contract on me (job related) and I lived long enough to see
him in prison. I have faced dangers much worse than Singer on my job for
the last 27+ years. But I don't feel that most members of this group work
in the same field nor would they welcome the kind of tactics that Singer
will use against them. Singer can and will find out where you work and
live. Your UNLISTED telephone numbers, DOB, SSN and other details of your
life will be his if he wants that kind of information. Singer is welcome to
post on the new vp-heaven but has chosen not to participate. I believe he
that will not post because he fears further exposure as a serial liar and a
fraud.
Rasti$Rulz
January 1, 2005
Countdown to retirement- 22 months
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vp-heaven
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rhonda Jacobs" <jacobsrb@muohio.edu>
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: Should Rob Singer become a "moderated member" of
vpFREE?
OK, now Mr. Singer has my email address and just decided to send me a
nasty
private email. And you want this man to participate in this forum?
\
At 11:52 AM 2/27/2003 -0800, you wrote:
OK...You need to stop smoking whatever it is you are
smoking.You had better be careful, I think someone is
watching you through your computer screen.And that
mailman?? Why do you think he asks all those questions
about your life when he delivers the mail?
And the pizza delivery guy...why does he always step
into your house and look around when he brings your
pizza? He commissioned an investigation of you???
Please tell me you are joking and I am taking this
the wrong way.Basing this on your previous posts
though I think you are dead serious.You had a guy take
out a contarct on you? Do me a favor,throw your TV
away before you start thinking you were abducted by
aliens.
Steve Bork
--- Video Poker Vegas <vpvegas@charter.net> wrote:
Rhonda, I am sorry to report that you should be
concerned. Singer went
after me because I exposed him as a fraud on
vpheaven. Singer commissioned
an investigation of me and found out details that I
didn't even know! He
knew my new office telephone number even before I
did. He sent me Christmas
card and made it clear that he knew not only where I
lived and worked but
where my daughter lived. Now this does not concern
me since I once had a
guy take out a contract on me (job related) and I
lived long enough to see
him in prison. I have faced dangers much worse than
Singer on my job for
the last 27+ years. But I don't feel that most
members of this group work
in the same field nor would they welcome the kind of
tactics that Singer
will use against them. Singer can and will find
out where you work and
live. Your UNLISTED telephone numbers, DOB, SSN and
other details of your
life will be his if he wants that kind of
information. Singer is welcome to
post on the new vp-heaven but has chosen not to
participate. I believe he
that will not post because he fears further exposure
as a serial liar and a
fraud.Rasti$Rulz
January 1, 2005
Countdown to retirement- 22
months
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vp-heaven----- Original Message -----
From: "Rhonda Jacobs" <jacobsrb@muohio.edu>
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: Should Rob Singer become a
"moderated member" of
vpFREE?> OK, now Mr. Singer has my email address and just
decided to send me a
nasty
> private email. And you want this man to
participate in this forum?
> \
> At 11:52 AM 2/27/2003 -0800, you wrote:
__________________________________________________
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Sir, perhaps you can email RS and he will provide you the details of his
investigation. As to the "contract" that is a matter of public record as a
trial was conducted in a United States court having jurisdiction over
solicitation of capital murder in the state of Texas. You are free to
believe or not believe but that does not change the facts.
Rasti$Rulz
January 1, 2005
Countdown to retirement- 22 months
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vp-heaven
----- Original Message -----
From: "steve bork" <stevebork@yahoo.com>
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: Should Rob Singer become a "moderated member" of
vpFREE?
OK...You need to stop smoking whatever it is you are
smoking.You had better be careful, I think someone is
watching you through your computer screen.And that
mailman?? Why do you think he asks all those questions
about your life when he delivers the mail?
And the pizza delivery guy...why does he always step
into your house and look around when he brings your
pizza? He commissioned an investigation of you???
Please tell me you are joking and I am taking this
the wrong way.Basing this on your previous posts
though I think you are dead serious.You had a guy take
out a contarct on you? Do me a favor,throw your TV
away before you start thinking you were abducted by
aliens.Steve Bork
--- Video Poker Vegas <vpvegas@charter.net> wrote:
> Rhonda, I am sorry to report that you should be
> concerned. Singer went
> after me because I exposed him as a fraud on
> vpheaven. Singer commissioned
> an investigation of me and found out details that I
> didn't even know! He
> knew my new office telephone number even before I
> did. He sent me Christmas
> card and made it clear that he knew not only where I
> lived and worked but
> where my daughter lived. Now this does not concern
> me since I once had a
> guy take out a contract on me (job related) and I
> lived long enough to see
> him in prison. I have faced dangers much worse than
> Singer on my job for
> the last 27+ years. But I don't feel that most
> members of this group work
> in the same field nor would they welcome the kind of
> tactics that Singer
> will use against them. Singer can and will find
> out where you work and
> live. Your UNLISTED telephone numbers, DOB, SSN and
> other details of your
> life will be his if he wants that kind of
> information. Singer is welcome to
> post on the new vp-heaven but has chosen not to
> participate. I believe he
> that will not post because he fears further exposure
> as a serial liar and a
> fraud.
>
> Rasti$Rulz
> January 1, 2005
> Countdown to retirement- 22
> months
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vp-heaven
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rhonda Jacobs" <jacobsrb@muohio.edu>
> To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 2:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: Should Rob Singer become a
> "moderated member" of
> vpFREE?
>
>
> > OK, now Mr. Singer has my email address and just
> decided to send me a
> nasty
> > private email. And you want this man to
> participate in this forum?
> > \
> > At 11:52 AM 2/27/2003 -0800, you wrote:
>
>__________________________________________________
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but how are people suppose to speak freely when now its obvious he will
just take his nasty comments off-line? thus by-passing moderation and
just
sending people private emails to clutter up their in-boxes
One could add a disclaimer to their sig that states something like "Any
Private mail sent to me by RS is not welcome and will be posted 'with
headers' at the vpFREE Forum" or sent to Tom to verify their validity. That
would stop someone from spoofing RS and help to ascertain if the posts are
indeed from him. If the vile posts are from him, "Off with his head"! 