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Short trip Report

#1

Hi folks: This is a short trip report from my October trip.

This was a Downtowner trip, stayed at the Plaza (first time) and MSS (many times).

Preamble: Good flight (UA), cheap Car rental (dollar), no hassles or aggravation from either .

Plaza: Stayed here on an e-mail offer based ( I believe) on modest previous play of around 4k in one day. Got a room for 2 nights, $50 gift certificate to Center Stage restaurant, and a bathrobe.

After reading many stories of how bad the Plaza accommodations were, I was pleasantly surprised..
I found the room to be well above average in size, clean, good A/C ( cold and quiet), and the room was quiet also, with a nice view of the strip. Downside, the furniture was showing signs of wear, but then again so am I, so I am not too critical .
Dinner at the Center Stage was a great experience. I phoned for a reservation and asked when I should book to get a good view, booked for 6 the next day. The table we had was dead center on the window; the service was extremely good, from Maitre D', through the waiter and down to the busboy.
I found the food to be very good, and a great bargain for the price. Three of us ate for $75 including tax but not the tip ( 3 main courses, 3 appetiser salads, 3 desserts, 3 coffees), and the main courses were among the most expensive on the menu.
Ate at the coffee shop, it was average, tried the breakfast buffet, it was below average.
Played lots of video poker, they still have plenty of FP deuces, and I also like playing the old 4 and 5 joker poker games and the double double jackpot games as well. I won a $10 gas card when I hit 4 ducks ( a nice bonus) . Lost a few bucks overall at the Plaza, and I will go again if I get another good offer.

MSS - Alas the old gamemakers are gone and I spread my play around regular 10/7 db, NSUD , NSUJ ( Not so ugly jokers) , and some bonus deuces to break things up.
The buffet still has a great breakfast, the 777 still has great beer , not bad ribs, and very good strawberry shortcake. I also hit the Fremont buffet on seafood night and ravaged the lobster claws.
I earned a lot of scratch cards in more 4 days there, and sadly noticed that my average value has dropped below the $3 per card mark ( this may be an aberration, but I got an awful lot of $2 cards).

Well that is all the significant information for this trip.

Regards
A.P.

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#2

MSS - Alas the old gamemakers are gone and I spread my play around regular
10/7 db, NSUD ,
NSUJ ( Not so ugly jokers) , and some bonus deuces to break things up.

  How in the hell are they ever going to get any incentive to put back the
only
GOOD game they had in recent memory when people keep playing this crud. I
know its
your money and they have a decent buffet, but it still irritates me to hear
that people
on these lists are still giving action to joints like this.

  By the way, the best NSUJ schedule I have ever seen pays 18 for the
quads.**
That little beauty pays under 99% even with a 4700 coin RF. Most NSUJ games
give 17 for the quads, which costs over another %. IMHO, NSUJ is misleading
at
best. Put a 19 on the quads and I'd be willing to call it NSUJ, but I don't
think it exists with that pay table.

  QZ

** Actually, that is not entierly true. I have seen some 2 pair joker
games that return about 99.9%, but I very much doubt this is what you found
at MSS.

#3

--- In vpFREE@y..., "Quad Zilla" <quadzilla666@e...> wrote:

  How in the hell are they ever going to get any incentive to

put back the

only
GOOD game they had in recent memory when people keep playing this

crud. I

know its
your money and they have a decent buffet, but it still irritates me

to hear

that people
on these lists are still giving action to joints like this.

Think back to when you were an out-of-towner, Zilla. Therein lies
the answer -- these guys have consistently been great with room/food
offers to a very nice property, while still offering some full-pay
VP, including some non-full-pay that becomes full-pay with scratch
cards and cash back. The loss of the 10/7/80's is a big one, but the
writing was on the wall for some time as those machines' condition
deteriorated over the last few years. Alas!
Cheers! Alan

#4

QZ: The jokers with 4700 Royal and 18 for the quad pays 99.2933%.
Then you can add the value of the scratch cards from MSS and you get around
%99.7 .

Regards
A.P.

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----- Original Message -----
  From: Quad Zilla
  To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 1:17 AM
  Subject: RE: [vpFREE] Short trip Report

        By the way, the best NSUJ schedule I have ever seen pays 18 for the
  quads.**
  That little beauty pays under 99% even with a 4700 coin RF.

        QZ

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#5

<<<
QZ: The jokers with 4700 Royal and 18 for the quad pays 99.2933%.
Then you can add the value of the scratch cards from MSS and you get around
%99.7 .

  I stand corrected. I somehow got it in my head that the
quad cycle for KBJW was a bit under 100 hands. However, it is
about 117 hands, which means each unit removed from the payout
for quads costs less than, not more than, 1%.

  QZ